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Gita As It was

“Is the Mahabharata epic -- the text of 100,000 verses -- which is a source for the events of the War to be taken as history? The epic itself claims to have been originally just 8,800 verses composed by Krsna Dvaipayana Vyasa and called the Jaya. Later, it became 24,000 verses, called the Bharata, when it was recited by Vaisampayana. Finally, it was recited as the 100,000 versed epic (the Mahabharata) by Ugrasravas, the son of Lomaharsana.  Thus the tradition acknowledges that the Mahabharata grew in stages. The core of the story is very ancient”


Subhash Kak
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/MahabharataII.pdf

Mahabharata war probably was a real war, which was located somewhere near Delhi area between two tribes over power.  However, it is evident that the picture developed in the Mahabharata story is a vastly exaggerated one.  That is not really very surprising since exaggeration and ballooning up were part of the style of literature in those days.  It was still only a story telling and not a scripture. The stories about a war might have been in existence for a long time but it was not written down well into the Christian era and that in Sanskrit language, which we know, came into existence only after the second century AD. 

 

Social and Economic Aspects of the BHAGAVAD-GITA
http://www.geocities.com/dialecticalmethod/mar1.html
D.D. Kosambi - Mathematician, Historian, Marxist, Peace Activist

This helps date the work as somewhere between 150-350 AD, nearer the later than the earlier date. The ideas are older, not original, except perhaps the novel use of bhakti. The language is high classical Sanskrit such as could not have been written much before the Guptas, though the metre still shows the occasional irregularity (G. 8. 10d, 8. 11 b, 15. 3a, &c) in tristubhs, characteristic of the M'bh as a whole. The Sanskrit of the high Gupta period, shortly after the time of the Gita, would have been more careful in versification.

It is known in any case that the M'bh and the Puranas suffered a major revisions in the period given above. The M'bh in particular was in the hands of Brahmins belonging to the Bhrgu clan, who inflated it to about its present bulk (though the process of inflation continued afterwards) before the Gupta age came to flower.

How much of these are true?

So any attempt to a scripture truth out of it will eventually lead to fallacies.  Here is the result of Dr. D.D. Kosambi’s research on the warriors on the battle field.

 

 

 

Myth and Reality

Studies in the Formation of Indian Culture

by D. D. KOSAMBI

First printed 1962

 

If a Mahabharata war had actually been fought on the scale reported, nearly five million fighting men killed each other in an 18-day battle between Delhi and Thanesar; about 130,000 chariots (with their horses), an equal number of elephants and thrice that many riding horses were deployed. This means at least as many camp-followers and attendants as fighters. A host of this size could not be supplied without a total population of 200 millions, which India did not attain till the British period, and could not have reached without plentiful and cheap iron and steel for ploughshares and farmers1 tools. Iron was certainly not available in any quantity to Indian peasants before the 6th century BC. The greatest army camp credibly reported was of 400,000 men under Candragupta Maurya, who commanded the surplus of the newly developed Gangetic basin. The terms patti, gulma etc., given as tactical units in the Mbh did net acquire that meaning till after the Mauryans. The heroes fought with bows and arrows from their chariots, as if the numerous cavalry did not exist; but cavalry—which appeared comparatively late in ancient Indian warfare—made the fighting chariots obsolete as was proved by Alexander in the Punjab.

Evidently the exaggeration is obvious. However several attempts have been made to date the war using astronomical references and local touches within the story.  It is no wonder that it gives varying dates.

1. The date of 3137 BC. is the traditional date.

 

2.  The date of 2449 BC. This is based on a statement by Varahamihira in 505 AD in chapter 13 of the Brihat Samhita, where it is claimed that the commencement of the Saka era took place 2,526 years after the rule of the king Yudhisthira. If the Saka era meant here is the Salivahana era (78 AD), then the date follows. Some scholars have suggested that this Saka era refers to the one started by an earlier Saka king in Central Asia and that this date is not at variance with the Kali date of Aryabhata.

3.  In the  " Scientific dating of Mahabharata War" by Dr P V Vartak in Marathi taking into consideration of  "All the twelve planets confirm their said positions on 16th October 5561 years B.C. along with two Amavasyas, two eclipses, Kshaya Paksha and a Comet. Thus, in all 18 mathematical positions fix the same date. Therefore, we have to accept this date of the Mahabharat War, if we want to be scientific. Please note that all the twelve planets will come in the same positions again only after 2229 crores of years.”  Hence this is a unique date.

4.  The Celestial Key to the Vedas: Discovering the Origins of the World's Oldest Civilization  By B. G. Sidharth 1999 gives the date as around 1350 BC

4. The date of 1924 BC. is suggested based on Puranic genealogies that see a gap of 1000 years or so between the War and the rule of the Nandas (424 BC) we get the date of 1424 BC. 

 

5.  In MAHABHARATKA KALA-NIRNAYA: Dr. Mohan Gupta, Visva-Vidyalaya-Prakashan, Chowk, Varanasi-221001 determines the date as 1952 B.C which is confirmed by Puranic genealogies which count up to this date by taking the 1500 years interval between King Parikshit (Arjuna's grandson) and Mahapadmananda, plus 100 years of the rule of the Nandas, plus 322 years, the historical date of Chandra Gupta Maurya, all before the birth of Christ.

 

6.  In Gopala Aiyer’s “The Date of the Mahabharata War”  Indian Review Vol. II, January-December 1901 edited by G.A.Natesan. gives the date of the war as 1190 B.C.  Sri Aurobindo was obviously fully convinced by Aiyer’s arguments, because  he writes, “It is now known beyond reasonable doubt that the Mahabharata war was fought out in or about 1190 B.C.”

 

7. The date of around 1000 BC.  is the date popularized by Western Indologists as being most “reasonable” based on archaeological data.  

 

There are a host of other dates given. We should expect such variations since there are several layers of literature overlapping well into the Christian era.  Again how far we can rely on the astronomical data given as authoritative and not mythical is a real problem.

The appearance of the Gita Upadesa – the teaching of Krishana – the divine song – in the middle of the war and its intent is certainly a problem.  We can be certain that it was a very late interpolation by the Brahminic hierarchy for specific purposes.


 

 

World Spiritual Traditions  
http://oaks.nvg.org/pv6bk5.html

THE POEM Bhagavad Gita ("Song of Lord Krishna", "Song of God") is said to be the single most important religious text of Hinduism. It forms part of Book 6 of the Mahabharata ("Great Epic of the Bharata Dynasty"), which is a very long poem composed between the 4th century BC and the 4th century AD. It is in the form of a dialogue.


       The Bhagavad Gita is of a later date than the major parts of the Mahabharata and was probably written in the 1st or 2nd century AD. It consists of 700 Sanskrit verses divided into 18 chapters.

 

       The hard core of the poem: As a result of going to war, a man called Arjuna gets confused, does as guru-dicatated, and ends up worn down and miserable - and so do his brothers. A whole caste is wiped out. That is how the great Mahabharata ends.

 

Swamy Vivekananda asks:"First, was Bhagavat Gita part of Mahabharatham and was the author of Gita really Veda Vyasa?"  (P 506 to 509 of Volume IV)

“A great many people do not believe that he ever existed. Some believe that [the worship of Krishna grew out of] the old sun worship. There seem to have been several Krishnas; one was mentioned in the Upanishads, another was a king, another a general. All have lumped into one Krishna.”.  CW, Vol.1: Krishna, p.438.


Before Sankara Acharya mentions about Gita in 8th century A.D, the book Bhagavat Gita was not known anywhere. Some people believe that Sankaracharya was the real author of Bhagavat Gita and he simply inserted it in the Bharatham epic.


 
http://www.geocities.com/ejking2002/prajapathi.html

 

The Bhagavad-Gita
By Indrani Bandyopadhyay

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/asia/as-bandy.htm

Upon reading the Mahabharata, one notices that its middle is out of kilter with its beginning and ending: that amongst the grand and richly detailed narrative of two families lies a text that hardly fits the epic's theme or style. This text is the Bhagavad-Gita. It is no great surprise that a warrior (in this case, Arjun) should should be struggling with the notion of death, truth, and duty as he goes to war: modern literature is well represented in its depictions of the misgivings of soldiers. But what is surprising is the vehemence with which war, death, and a soldier's duty are defended, and especially by Krishna, the chosen Lord of the peaceable Vaishnavites.

The Bhagavad-Gita comes to us as a section of the Mahabharata, the epic and romantic tale of two armies and the great battle of Kurukshetra. Here the Gita sits, but not entirely comfortably. In the first volume of A History of India, Romila Thapar explains that "the Epics had originally been secular . . . [and were] revised by the Brahmans with a view to using them as religious literature; thus many interpolations were made, the most famous being the addition of the Bhagavad Gita to the Mahabharata" (pp. 133-4). She mentions that the Mahabharata itself "may have been the description of a local feud," but in its final form becomes "no longer the story of war, but has acquired a number of episodes (some of which are unrelated to the main story) and a variety of interpolations, many of which are important in themselves . . ."; and that both epics were "concerned with events which took place between c. 1000 and 700 BC, but as the versions which survive date from the first half of the first millennium AD they too can hardly be regarded as authentic sources for the study of the period to which they pertain" (pp. 32, 31).

Judaism and the Gentile Faiths: Comparative Studies in Religion  By Joseph P.
Gita was interpolated into Mahabharata sometime during the first century C.E….As in the case of Judaism, the Gnostic sects and the mystery cults of the Greco-Roman world may well have been the channels…..

Dr. Phulgenda Sinha  places the interpolations as late as to around 8th century AD and ascribes it as a result of Christian and Islamic influence.  According to Sinha, there was an original gita of 84 as found in the Bali version, verses written by Vyasa, which is consistent in basic theme with Kapila's Samkhya Darshan (700 BC) and Patanjali's Yoga sutra (400 BC). The Bhagavagita of the modern form is, in his angle, intentionally constructed by Brahmins in the period of 800 AD. It borrowed themes of monotheism, hell, heaven, sin and salvation themes from Christanity and Islam.

 

The Gita As It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita

by Phulgenda Sinha

 

The Gita as It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita

Book by Phulgenda Sinha; Open Court, 1987. 268 pgs.

The corruption of the original Gita was due to the convergence of sev­eral conditions, both internal and external. Externally, three great reli­gions--Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--all believing in the concept of one Almighty God, were well established in the Middle East, with which India had extensive trade relationships through the port of Alexandria. By250 A.D., Indian merchants had established colonies in Alexandria, which provided a meeting ground for Indian scholars, who could exchange philo­sophical ideas with the preachers, teachers, and missionaries of the new faiths. Thus, some Indians, mostly from the South, had become acquainted with the doctrines of these organized religions centuries before the actual revision of the Gita took place.

 

Second, it is claimed that the Syrian Christian Sect in Kerala was founded by Saint Thomas, who was martyred at Mylapore, a suburb of Madras, in 68 A.D. Further, by the middle of the fourth century, the persecuted Persian Christians had set up their colonies on the Malabar Coast.  It is obvious that the philosophy of monotheism had made its entry into India, in some limited but concrete form, long before it was accepted and introduced through the Bhagavadgita in about 800 A.D.

Among the external factors, the most conspicuous and dominating appears to be the Islamic invasions and their subsequent conquest of Sind (then the western part of India and now in Pakistan) during the early part of the eighth century. After the death of Muhammad ( 570-632) the Arabs,…….

Reworking the original Gita to form the Bhagavadgita was not merely the modification of a book. It was a surreptitious plot to dismantle the whole intellectual edifice of Indian culture which had been built up over a thousand years. The changers not only stopped the tide of rationalism in Indian life but also seduced people into believing and accepting the false as genuine, alien as indigenous, religious as political, and mystical as rational. The consequences were deep, all-encompassing, and bewildering. India, indeed, was pushed into a 'dark age'.

It has already been mentioned that when the original Gita was altered, the interpolators also made changes in many other works of that time to establish textual support in their favor. It was for this reason that the interpolations were made in the Rig Veda, the Epics, Samkhya Karika, and Yoga Sutra. It is obvious that there could have been numerous alterations in many other texts, still to be detected.

 

It has also been pointed out that bands of proselytizers for the new Brahmanic faith were organized at four different centers (mathas) during the time of Shankaracharya. These teachers received increasing political protection and patronage. At the same time, the national opponents of the new faith were forced into silence.

 In such an atmosphere, the people had to accept the doctrines of the new faith even when they did not agree with them. This enforced obedience of the Indian people towards the newly coined doctrines and codes of behavior which, though beneficial to the Brahmans as a caste, were disastrous to India as a nation, as a political entity, and as a culture.

The repercussions of these changes were so far-reaching that they can­ not be adequately discussed under any single category. I have, therefore, preferred to cover them under four different subheadings:

(i) political sub­missiveness;

(ii) philosophical distortions;

(iii) mystification of Yoga; and

(iv) religious and cultural effects.

 

Quest for the Original Gita by Gajanan Shripat Khair (Vedam books) proposes that it was the work of three different authors of three different periods inculcating the concepts of those periods.

The Brahminic interpolations effectively took over the monistic concepts of Christians and Islam and then interpolated a relative ethics which justifies the terrorist activities of the Brahmins to take control of the society.

We shall now look at the Gita ethics as proposed by Krishna.

Morality and Ethics according to Krishna

satyameva jayate naanritam
satyena pantha vitato devayanah
yenaa kramantyarishayo hyaaptakaamaa

yatra tat satyasya paramam nidhaanam

Only truth prevails, not untruth;
by the path of truth is laid out, the Divine way,
on which the sages of yore, fulfilled in their desires,
attain the supreme treasure of Truth.

Mundaka Upanishad 3.1.6

 This is the motto of India as it appears in the seal of India just below the Asoka Lions.  This verse is taken from Mundaka Upanishad and asserts the absolute existence of Truth.  Truth is always associated with God himself because God is Good.  That is how we define Good.  Hence Mundaka Upanishad proclaims that Truth will be victorious always.  If that is so there must be something which is immutable.  Truth cannot be something which changes.  This is the basic stand of the Upanishads.

However when we come to Vaishnavite teaching we are confronted with a totally different stand point where the concept of an absolute truth is questioned reducing morality into a relative contextual affair.   We will try to analyse the Bhagavat Gita as we have it today.  There is no doubt that it is a later interpolation into the Mahabharata story by a Krishna cult devotee.  As the cult gained prominence in due course it was accepted as part of the Mahabharata itself.

The very question of the morality of killing his own cousins just to get the power and kingdom was the problem of Arjuna.

“We are resolved to commit very sinful acts,
ready to slay our kinsmen to satisfy our greed” Arjun

“Alas, we are resolved to commit very sinful acts, ready to slay our kinsmen to satisfy our greed for the pleasure of a kingdom!  It would be far better for me to let the sons of Dritharasthra kill me, unarmed and unresisting.  Arjuna, having thus spoken on the battlefield, cast aside his bow and arrows and sat down on his chariot-seat. His mind was overcome with grief. (1:45-46)

Arjuna said: "Krishna, how can I fight with arrows on the battlefield against men like Bishma and Drona, who are worthy of my worship?  It would be better for me to live in this world on alms rather than to slay these high-souled teachers. It I kill them, what wealth and pleasures I would enjoy, would be tainted with their blood.  We do not know which would be better - conquering them or being conquered by them. Arrayed against us stand the sons of Dritarastr; after slaying them we should not wish to live. (2:4-6)

To this eternal moral question the advise of Krishna was: "The wise men who reached true knowledge see with equal vision a brahman (priest), a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater One whose mind is free from egotism, whose intellect is pure, is not bound even though he slays many people, for he does not truly slay. Those who think that they can kill or those that think they can be killed are confused in the manifestations of ignorance. The infinite, immortal soul can neither kill nor be killed" (2,17-19).

Thus to an enlightened one who has realized the oneness of the universe in Atman, there is no morality.  Everything is moral. There is no killer nor killed.

Morality depends only on motives and not on the action or its effect
S. Dasgupta, Indian Philosophy, Motilal Banarsidass, 1991, vol.2

The theory of the Gita that, if actions are performed with an unattached mind, then their defects cannot touch the performer, distinctly implies that the goodness or badness of an action does not depend upon external effects of the action, but upon the inner motive of action. If there is no motive of pleasure or self-gain, then the action performed cannot bind the performer; for it is only the bond of desires and self-love that really makes an action one's own and makes one reap its good or bad fruits. Morality from this point of view becomes wholly subjective, and the special feature of the Gita is that it tends to make all actions non-moral by cutting away the bonds that connect an action with its performer (Ibid, p. 507).

The Gita combines together different conceptions of God without feeling the necessity of reconciling the oppositions or contradictions involved in them. It does not seem to be aware of the philosophical difficulty of combining the concept of God as unmanifested, differenceless entity with the notion of Him as the super-person Who incarnates Himself on earth in the human form and behaves in the human manner.

 


 

It is not aware of the difficulty that, if all good and evil should have emanated from God, and if there be ultimately no moral responsibility, and if everything in the world should have the same place in God, there is no reason why God should trouble to incarnate Himself as man, when there is a disturbance of the Vedic dharma. If God is impartial to all, and if He is absolutely unperturbed, why should He favour the man who clings to Him, and why, for his sake, overrule the world-order of events and in his favour suspend the law of karma. (p533).



 

 “Morality depends only on motives
and not on
the action or its effect”

Acting in this way, one brings his actions as sacrifices to Krishna and therefore they do not generate karmic seeds:

“Consider all your acts as acts of devotion to me, whether eating, offering, giving away, performing austerities. Perform them as an offering to me. In this way you will be free from karma, you will be liberated and you will come to me” (9,27).

 

Modern Godmen in India: A Sociological Appraisal  By Uday Mehta, Akshayakumar Ramanlal Desai

“They ascribe personality to the Supreme God but deny definite moral character to him.  Consequently, the whole system becomes amoral.  Then to bring in morality they have to assume an independent moral law – the law of Karma.  But it results in various inconsistencies.  We have noted in their teaching that God is supreme cheater as well.  He is not always honest and reliable.  He can take incarnation as Buddha to deceive people.”


Buddha -God incarnate to deceive people

 

Religious Doctrines in the Mahābhārata
By Nicholas Sutton
6. The Ethics of the Bhagavad-gita

In 2.31-37 and 3.9-16, he asserts the primacy of sva-dharma over Arjuna’s notion of morality.  The views expressed by Arjuna in favour of non-violence cannot be sustained because he is a kstriya and therefore his dharma is to fight. (2.31-37). Warfare is a ritual act for a warrior, intimately connected with the execution of yajnas – yajnah karma-samudbhavah (3.14) – which nourish and sustain both the gods and the earth.  Hence in terms of the previous discussion, Krsna in the opening chapters of the Gita rejects Arjuna’s moral view by stressing the ascetic and ritual ethics just as Vyasa does to Ydhisthira in the debate that follows the battle.  It is for this reason that Edgerton asserts that morality is underplayed in the gita, a view confirmed by Dasgupta who states, “the Gita does not rise to the ideal of regarding all beings as friends or to that of universal compassion’ and “Gita does not rise to the dieal of regarding all beings as friends or to that of universal compassion.” And. “Gita has no programme of universal altruism, and is never a handbook of good works.”

“Since killing is your duty, Kill.”  That is what Krsna says.  Apart from the teaching Krishna’s acts and advise, during the war that followed this same principle of Sva-dharma  (your own dharma which in this case translates as personal interest) was shown in application. If it is advantages for you to lie, deceive or kill do that with soberness and without guilt.  

 

“the Gita does not rise to the ideal of regarding all beings as friends or to that of universal compassion”

 

Look at the killing of Dronacharya

 

Killing of Dronacharya

 

According to the Mahabharatha, during the battle at Kurukshetra, (a war between the Pandavas and Kauravas) the warrior Acharya Drona was un-stoppable, until Krishna devises a plan. Krishna plots to trick Acharya Drona into believing that his son Aswatthama, has been killed. Krishna involves three of the five Pandava brothers(Yudishtra, Beemasena and Arjuna) to deceive Acharya Drona.

This incident is described by the following quotation from the Mahabharata, translated by C Rajagopalachari. Chapter XC, page 381-382, the 44th edition, 2004 states:

 
“ ‘O Arjuna’, said Krishna , ‘there is none that can defeat this Drona, fighting according to the strict rules of war. We cannot cope with him unless dharma is discarded. We have no other way open. There is one thing that will desist him from fighting. If he hears Aswatthama is dead ….’

Arjuna shrank in horror at the proposal as he could not bring himself to tell a lie. Those who were nearby also rejected the idea … Yudhistra stood for a while reflecting deeply. ‘I shall bear the burden of this sin’, he said to resolve the deadlock.


‘I have killed Aswatthama’, Bhemasena uttered these words, greatly ashamed. “the elephant” in mumble

 

    #  To kill Bhisma, Sikhandin was used as a living shield against whom that perfect knight would not raise a weapon, because of doubtful sex.
   #   Drona was polished off while stunned by the deliberate false report of his son's death.

   #   Karna was shot down against all rules of chivalry when dismounted and unarmed;

    #  Duryodhana was bludgeoned to death after a foul mace blow that shattered his thigh.

This is by no means the complete list of iniquities.  

 

D.D. Kosambi   

 

 

 

 

 

"At every single crisis of the war, 
Krishna’s advice wins the day 
by the crookedest of means 
which could never have occurred to the others"
Kosambi

 

 

 

 

 

 

How Bhishma was killed.

 

 

Krishna using Chakra against Bhishma.  It was Arjuna who stopped him reminding him of his oath.

Krishna adivises Arjun to keep Sikhandi the eunuch in front and then shoot down Bhishma as Bhishmacharya refused to fight with one who is neither a man nor a woman

 

Krishna told Arjuna: "Do it! You will not incur any sin. I shall protect you."
It was not "moral" to kill Dronacharya, Bhishma and all the other great and pious heroes fighting for the Kauravas, but Arjuna surrendered to Krishna, his guru. He thus surpassed the mundane principles of morality, which involve following rules and regulations to keep peace and order in human society.

http://www.vtweb.com/gosai/krishna-talk/pure-devotion.html

B. B. Bodhayan President of Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math

“Good and evil of this world of duality are unreal,
are spoken of by words,
and exist only in the mind.”
Bhagavatam,
XI, ch XXII

 

Five occasions when you should tell lie
Vasishtha's Smriti

 

Finding Yudhisthira unwilling to tell a lie, Krishna overcame his reluctance by a long exhortation, in the course of which he announced his ethics of untruth in the following edifying text from Vasishtha's Smriti.

"In marriage,
in amorous dealings,
when one's life is in danger,
when the whole of one's possession is going to be lost, and
when a Brahman's interest is at stake,

untruth should be told.
The wise have said that speaking untruth on these five occasions is not a sin."

 

Krishna thus declares
the dharma
that is to be followed in
Kaliyuga
by cutting off the third leg of dharma

 

He inaugurated Kaliyuga with his death.
Now on dharma was to stand on One leg.

Buddha and Mahavira were fighting against this decay.
They insisted on Ahimsa and Righteousness.

Jesus taught that even if you are to lay down your life,
stand for what is right.

 

          Vasishtha Smriti

 

 

  Bhagavatha Purana,
Sage Sukracharya

(He was the divine teacher to all the Dasyas or Devils)
also clarified it as:

While dealing the women and at fixing the weddings
To save the life and wield off inevitable dishonor
For saving others from fear and protecting cows and Brahmins
You can utter a lie and itself is not a sin at the crucial hour

 

Babasaheb Ambedkar in his Riddle of Hinduism gives four such occasions

 

  Riddle In Hinduism

By Dr. Babasaheb B.R.Ambedkar

 

Actions of Krishna during the Mahabharata War may now be reviewed. The following are some of them:

 

1. When Satyaki, Krishna's friend, was hard pressed by Bhurisrava, son of Somadatta, Krishna induced Arjuna to cut off his arms, and thereby made it easy for Satyaki to kill him.

 

2. When Abhimanyu was unfairly surrounded and killed by seven Kaurava warriors, Arjuna vowed the death of the ring leader, Jayadratha, next day before sunset, or, failing that his own death by entering into fire. When the Sun was about to set, and Jayadratha remained unslain, Krishna miraculously hid the Sun, on which Jayadratha, having come out Krishna uncovered the Sun, and Arjuna killed Jayadratha when he was unaware.

 

 

3. Despairing of Drona being ever killed by fair means Krishna advised the Pandavas to kill him unfairly. If he could he made to cast down his arms, he could, Krishna said, be killed easily. This could be done if he was told that his son, Asvathama was dead. Bhima tried the suggested device He killed an elephant named after Drona's son and told him that Asvathama was killed. The warrior was somewhat depressed by the news, but did not quite believe it. At this juncture he was hard pressed by a number of sages to cease fighting and prepare himself for heaven with meditations worthy of a Brahmana. This checked the hero still more and he applied to the truthful Yudhisthira for correct information about his son. Finding Yudhisthira unwilling to tell a lie, Krishna overcame his reluctance by a long exhortation, in the course of which he announced his ethics of untruth in the following edifying text from Vasishtha's Smriti.

" In marriage, in amorous dealings, when one's life is in danger, when the whole of one's possession is going to be lost, and when a Brahman's interest is at stake, untruth should be told. The wise have said that speaking untruth on these five occasions is not a sin." Yudhisthir's scruples were stifled, and he said to his preceptor, " Yes, Asvathama is killed " adding in a low voice, " that is, an elephant " which last words, however were not heard by Dron. His depression was complete, and on hearing some bitterly reproachful words from Bhima, he gave up his arms, and while sitting in a meditative posture, was killed by Dhristhadyumna.

 

 

4. When Bhima was unsuccessfully fighting with Duryodhana by the side of the Dvaipayana Lake Krishna reminded him through Arjuna that he had vowed the breaking of his opponent's thighs. Now striking a rival below the navel was unfair, but as Duryodhana could not be killed except by such an unfair means, Krishna advised Bhima to adopt the same and Bhima did." The death of Krishna throws a flood of light on his morals.

 

 

  Ethics in Mahabharatha

April 14, 2006 by Prabu Karthik.

We can also say the same about the killing of Karna and Duryodhana.
It was not exactly ethical to attack someone who is busy lifting his chariot which gets stuck in the mud.

Similarly, Bheema had no business to smash Duryodhana’s thighs as part of accepted Kadha war practices. Krishna subtly prompts him to do that citing Bheema’s oath when Panchali was humiliated.

So I think Vyasa wants to imply subtly that when you enter a war, a few ethical blemishes here and there are inevitable. But maybe it’s just me. Each person can interpret it in his own way.

But the fact remains that the practices of Pandavas to win the war was anything but ethical.

 

The following are from Indo link story of Mahabharata:

 

   “It was the day when Karna was in command of the Kaurava army. He decided to have his final battle with Arjuna that day. Arjuna was also ready for him. The armies of the Kaurava and Pandava were skeptical of the outcome as both were equally powerful. When Karna proceeded towards Arjuna on the battlefield, Yudhishthira came in between and Karna cut his weapons in pieces. He spared Yudhishthira’s life as he had promised to Kunti. Karna soon stood face to face with Arjuna. Suddenly Karna’s charioteer was killed and one of the chariot’s wheels broke down. Karna requested Arjuna to stop fighting while his wheel was fixed. Karna was unarmed and it was unethical for Arjuna to attack Karna in that situation. But Krishna spoke otherwise, “Karna, this war itself is unethical. It will be foolish of Arjuna not to take this opportunity to kill you.”

 

Krishna encouraged Arjuna to kill Karna instantly. Thus Karna was killed mercilessly in the hands of his brother Arjuna.  


 

“The Pandavas were worried. At the rate that they were loosing soldiers, they would not be able to hold out too long against Bheeshma. Bheeshma was blessed with the power to choose his time of death. So, he was practically invincible. When the Pandavas were about to give up, Krishna came up with a plan. Krishna knew that Bheeshma would not fight the eunuch, Srikhandi. To Bheeshma, a noble warrior like him would consider it a disgrace to fight with a eunuch. At one point he had even proudly promised to drop his arms if such a situation ever arose. Krishna knew Bheeshma’s weakness and wanted to take advantage of this. So he asked Arjuna to keep Shrikhandi, a eunuch, in front of the chariot while fighting with Bheeshma. This would stop Bheeshma, and Arjuna could take this opportunity to immobilize him with a volley of arrows.

 

The plan worked and Bheeshma fell down on a bed of arrows. That was the tenth day of war. The fighting stopped so that all could pay respects to a hero of all times.”

 

 

Here is a portion from a blog (names are witheld)

To Krishna it is just a play !! 

 

 

Here is the justification for Krishna as given by a blogger:

“:) If Tsunami could happen and kill thousands of people... God is there, and yet if this happened, i do not see much of a contradiction in Krishna playing a role in getting the forces that support Duryodhana killed..

:) To Krishna its just a play and he is beyond the play! The role of a charmer and the role of a politician. Krishna played both the roles. Krishna does not cheat. He says, if this is the rule of the game, ill use the rule effectively. He says in the Gita very clearly that even before Arjuna killed them they are dead! Death and Birth are the laws of nature”

The original questioner of the Blog is concerned as follows:

“And so against all rules of accepted chivalry,
it is all right to chop off Dronacharya's head after stunning him with false news of his son's death?

It is all right to kill Bhisma after shooting from behind a person of questionable sex who Bhisma, being a preux chevalier, would not attack?

 It is all right to kill Karna in a completely wicked and treacherous manner?

 It is ok to advise Bhima to aim his mace (gada) at Duryodhana's thigh, thereby shattering it, against the existing rule of battle?

Are these really righteous and unquestionable actions?
And this person, who repeatedly gives crooked advice, is the one we must turn to for learning about ethics and ethical conduct?”

 

 

Everything thus becomes sacred as long as it is dedicated to God – a perfect theology for terrorism based on religion.  That is exactly what the demoralized Brahminism wanted, to get back into power in the 6th century and it goes on even today.

Most Vaishnavites who entered the western civilization of modern day taught exactly the same in direct worlds. 

The Vedic teaching, like that of other religious traditions, is that God determines what’s right or wrong. His absolute word sets the standards for morality. Without God in the picture, invented morality has no ultimate value.

http://www.krishna.com/node/498

Rajaneesh – Osho

Rajaneesh - There is no absolute good or evil

http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/new-age/NA0805W2.htm

Rajneesh teaches that "to emphasize morality is mean, degrading; it is inhuman" and that literally "everything is holy; nothing is unholy." Here we see that one of the purposes of the Eastern monistic path is to get the disciple to understand that, after "enlightenment" everything he does is "holy," whether good or evil. Because nothing is truly evil, Rajneesh even acknowledges murder as a potentially meditative act (i.e., something "good" or "holy")—assuming, of course, it is done in "higher" consciousness.

In commenting upon the lesson of the Bhagavad Gita (a Hindu scripture) he says: "Even if you kill someone consciously, while fully conscious [i.e., "enlightened"], it is meditative.... Kill, murder, fully conscious, knowing fully that no one is murdered and no one killed.... Just become the instrument of Divine hands and know well that no one is killed, no one can be killed."

 

No one can be killed in this philosophy because no one really exists to be killed. All duality (e.g., people) is illusion and only the impersonal, undifferentiated God is real. In a letter to the editor, even Charles Manson once said, "I’ve killed no one." Given the influence of monism upon him, this attitude is not surprising

Srila Prabhupada

This also becomes evident from the contention of Prabhupada that “In transcendence notoriousness has the same absolute connotation as eminence”.  It is not surprising therefore to know tha ISKON holds that “The yogi should be able when the occasion arises, to reject even moral behaviours and do what is necessary to serve Krishna.”  A devotee, in other words, can commit any evil because no action done for Krishna has any bad reaction.  In ISKON’s version, Krishna himself says, “Anyone whose full consciousness is always absorbed in me, even in lust, is elevated.”  This in turn implies that not only is Krishna independent of the law of Karma, but that anybody who is in Krishna Consciousless can afford to be immoral.

As pointed out by Mangalwadi, “In theory this does not sound alarming, but it does whenPrabhupada’s followers began to practice these teachings.  In December 1975, an Americal devotee on a British passport was arrested for trying to smuggle 17 watches, 82 calculators, two cassette players 803 pounds and $100 in a scarf trunk.  Even after being imprisoned for two months and disowned by the Hare Krishna Movement in India, he believed he had not done anything wrong because he wanted to smuggle this money to buy cars and settle in Inda as a preacher of Krishna Consciousness.”

http://www.gaudiyadiscussions.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1416.html 

 

"We can approach people with 
the Bhagavad Gita in one hand 
and a gun in the other."
Srila Prabhupada

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


On a morning walk in Raman Reti one day with a group of disciples, Bhaktivedanta said:
“Just like the Muslims converted people with a sword in one hand and the Koran in the other, we can approach people with the Bhagavad Gita in one hand and a gun in the other. ‘Do you accept Krishna?’ ‘No.’ Pow!


Not now, but later when we are more powerful.”

 

Remember, the principle was that we could do anything for Krishna. The end justified the means. This resulted in fraud and con tactics, drug dealing, murder and prostitution being used by some devotees. Now some argue whether Bhaktivedanta was aware of these things going on or not. He certainly was pleased with the devotees who brought money and wasn't concerned with how they got it. The biggest wheeler dealers became the biggest ISKCON leaders.

 

It is even sadder to hear people rationalize this incident with the story of the four mystics who plunderred people in South India to construct the Sri Ranganath Mandir in South India.
I hear people say, "Prabhupada purified that money."

 

We have shown that the ethics of Vaishanav sect is essentially swadharma and not dharma.  It is  based on what is convenient and does not respect any eternal principles. We wont be able to find a single situation when we are required to be truthful and righteous as long as the situation demands something personal.  Such an ethics is pragmatic and is used even today in war.  But such a moral code in daily living is self defeating and will eventually destroy the society.  This is exactly what was illustrated in the remaining history of Krishna’s reign on earth.

 

Krishna  and Dwaraka
CONSEQUENCES OF GITA PHILOSOPHY

Riddle In Hinduism

By Dr. Babasaheb B.R.Ambedkar

 

Krishna's youthful career was full or illicit intimacy with the young women of Brindaben which is called his Rasalila. Rasa is a sort of circular dance in which the hands of the dancers, men and women, are joined together. It is said to be still prevalent among some of the wild tribes of this country. Krishna, it is stated, was in the habit of often enjoying this dance with the young Gopis of Brindaben, who loved him passionately. One of these dances is described in the Vishnu Purana, the Harivamsa and the Bhagavata. All these authorities interpret the Gopi's love for Krishna as piety—love to God, and see nothing wrong in their amorous dealings with him—dealings which, in the case of any other person, would be highly reprehensible according to their own admission. All agree as to the general character of the affair—the scene, the time and season, the drawing of the women with sweet music, the dance, the amorous feelings of the women for Krishna, and their expression in various ways. But while the Vishnu Purana tries— not always successfully—to keep within the limits of decency, the Harivamsa begins to be plainly indecent, and the Bhagavata throws away all reserve and revels in indecency.

 

Of all his indecencies the worst is his illicit life with one Gopi by name Radha. Krishna's illicit relations with Radha are portrayed in the Brahmavaivarta Purana. Krishna is married to Rukmani the daughter of King Rukmangad. Radha was married to..... Krishna who abandons his lawfully wedded wife Rukmini and seduces Radha wife of another man and lives with her in sin without remorse.

Having started with the rasleela with gopis of vrindavan, it was taken up by the sex tantric cult which took Krishna cult to another level.  Radah probably was an interpolation of the Tantric cult.

The Padma Purana describes 18,000 cowherd-girls (gopis) among whom it says 108 are the most important. Among those 108, eight are considered more important still, and among the eight, two have a special position - Chandravali and Radharani. Of the two, Radha is considered the foremost.

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Tantra is probably a Gnostic introduction to India as a science even though it existed in all societies.  Gnostic Christianity talks about the relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene as it became popular these days through the Da Vinci Code. The Mandaean texts speak of Manichean sexual mysteries: “Then I explained to you, my disciples, that  there is yet another Gate (sect) that derives from Msiha (Messiah). They are called “Zandiqi” (saints)and ‘Mar dMani” (of Lord Mani). They sow seeds in concealment” –Ginza (right) 9:1  It is therefore quite possible that Manichaen Gnostics introduced this art in India.  Since they influenced Buddhism we see this more among the Buddhsit art. It was somewhere between the 1st and 6th centuries that the Kama Sutra, originally known as Vatsyayana Kamasutram ('Vatsyayana's Aphorisms on Love'), was written.  So it fall within the developing period of Hinduism. 

Even in the gnostic tradition there were two parallel traditions; one ascetic and the other sensual.  This is surprisingly paralleled in Hinduism too.

Tantric sexual behavior among monastics is consistent with Bon and Nyingma traditions from Tibet and is not out of harmony with their strong spiritual focus and higher monastic morals. Whether or not Manichaean monastics practiced some sort of higher tantric sexuality cannot be absolutely proven from the present historical record although circumstantial evidence seems to imply they did. If they did practice some sort of limited intimacy among themselves, such intimacies would have been carried out for purely altruistic spiritual purposes and not some sordid release of lower desire. The Manichaeans monks were not hypocrites, nor were her nuns given over to licentious abandonment. What ever the secret practices of this ancient brother sisterhood, they were in full accord with the advanced ethical teachings of their founder Mar Mani and in full accord with the secret teachings and practices of Yeshu (Jesus) and Miryai (Magdalene) and other great Nazorean Apostles of that Good Realm.

Compiled by Abba Yesai Nasrai, O:N:E:
www.wikio.com/article=38504670

 

David Gordon White, while cautioning against attempting a rigorous definition of what is a protean practice, offers the following working definition:

"Tantra is that Asian body of beliefs and practices which, working from the principle that the universe we experience is nothing other than the concrete manifestation of the divine energy of the Godhead that creates and maintains that universe, seeks to ritually appropriate and channel that energy, within the human microcosm, in creative and emancipatory ways"

When enacted as enjoined by the tantras the ritual sex culminates in a sublime experience of infinite awareness, by both participants. The Tantric texts specify that sex has three distinct and separate purposes — procreation, pleasure and liberation. Those seeking liberation eschew frictional orgasm for a higher form of ecstasy, as the couple participating in the ritual, lock in a static embrace. Several sexual rituals are recommended and practised.   This eventually culminates in samadhi wherein the respective individualities of each of the participants are completely dissolved in the unity of cosmic consciousness.

Modern Godmen in India: A Sociological Appraisal  By Uday Mehta, Akshayakumar Ramanlal Desai

It is widely known among the scholars that Radha does not figure in the Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavat Gita, Hari Vamsa, Vishnu Purana or even the Bhagavad Purana – the movement’s main scripture; Radha, for whom Krishna is presumed to have such intense love, does not figure in Hindu religious literature till about the 10th century A.D.

Alternative Krishnas: Regional And Vernacular Variations On A Hindu Deity 
Guy L Beck

While there is a brief mention of Radha in the Padma Purana, and even a long discussion of her in the Brahmnavaivarta Purana, the antiquiry and authenticity of these texts is highly contested.  The Brahmavaivarta Purana, a “Tantric” Purana probably dating from the fifteenth to the sixteenth centuries CE, “attempted a thoroughgoing synthesis of Krishaite and Sakta ideas, fitting Radha into the outlines of Hindu feminine theology sa as to accommodate important devotional-theological movements in North India during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries”. 


 

On the other hand , “this same synthetic impetus led to an emphasis on Radha’s maternal role that was largely peculiar to the Brahmavaivarta  and was not acknowledged for the most part by the later Radha cults. To be sure, various notions of Radha in the Brahmavaivrata came to be widely accepted. Such as the identification of Radha and Krishna with prakriti and purusa.  And such sects as the Radhavallabhis, who worship Radha above Krishna, may be especially indebted to the Brahmavaivrata”    However this text does not really describe Radha as a soverign deity…….

.The religious writings of Bengali vaishnava were deeply imbued in Tantric thought and practice, wherein Radha becomes theologized Aadysakthi  (hladini sakthi), the cosmic energy, the primeval mother of the world, a metamorphoses of the great goddess Durga, whom Krishna once known as his sister, Subhadra, Yagamaya.

In the pious veneration of Radha …..these new  groups preferred to distance themselves from Sakta and Tantric traditions that were receiving social disapproval for unsavory and unorthodox practices……wake of twelfth century Sanskrit text, Gitagovinda by Jayadeva in Bengal………Radha-Krishna became popular …….

 

Radha as the Primary Sakthi of Universe

Radha  is the principal paramour of Krishna in the Srimad Bhagavatam, and the Gita Govinda of the Hindu religion. In many Vaishnava traditions of Hinduism, Radha is regarded as a primary deity, often worshipped to as an incarnation of Goddess Laxmi. Radha is almost always depicted alongside Krishna and features prominently within the theology of today's Gaudiya Vaishnava religion, which regards Radha as the original Goddess or Shakti. Radha's relationship with Krishna is given in further detail within texts such as the Brahma Vaivarta Purana, Garga Samhita and Brihad Gautamiya tantra. Radha is also the principal object of worship in the Nimbarka Sampradaya, as Nimbarka, the founder of the tradition, declared that Radha and Krishna together constitute the absolute truth.

For some of the adherents of these traditions, her importance approaches or even exceeds that of Krishna. She is considered to be his original shakti, the supreme goddess in both the Nimbarka Sampradaya and following the advent of Chaitanya also within the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition. In the Brihad-Gautamiya Tantra, Radharani is described as follows: "The transcendental goddess Srimati Radharani is the direct counterpart of Lord Sri Krishna. She is the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of the Lord." Nimbarka (13th C)  was the first Vaishnava acharya to disseminate teachings about Radha

Within the Bhagavata Purana, Radha is not mentioned by name but is alluded to within the tenth chapter of the text as one of the gopis who Krishna plays with during his upbringing as a young boy. It is in later texts such as the Gita Govinda where we find the story of Radha given in more detail.

Vaishnava tradition states that Radha was born in either Varshana, or Rawal, a village about 8 kilometers from Vrindavan, near present day New Delhi in India. There are a number of accounts of her parentage. According to one of the common ones, her father is the leader (sometimes regarded as king) of cowherds called Vrishabhanu, and her mother is called Kamalavati, or Kirtida.  Sri Sri Camatkara Candrika by Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura gives the name of Radha’s husband as Abhimnyu the son of Jatila. Other traditions gives the names as Chandrasena and Ayana.  They may all be refering to the same person.  Harivamsa states that she was older than Krishna by 19 years.  They were together in Vrindavan when Krishna was in his teens.

 

The Kingdom of Krishna

Sri Krishna killed his uncle Kamsa and crowned Ugrasena, his grandfather as the king of Mathura.  Kamsa's father-in law, Jarasandha, the king of Magadh pestered Mathura with random attackes that Krishna and the Yadavas were  forced to move out of Mathura.  They moved to the Island of Dwaraka in order to build their kingdom of Krishna.  

When they arrived at the coast of Saurashtra they invoked Visvakarma, to build them a city.  Visvakarma is the architect of gods.   Visvakarma would take up the assignment only if Samudradeva, the lord of the sea, provided the land protected by him. So Krishna worshipped Samudradeva, who  granted him a  land measuring 12 yojanas.  It is located in the Jamnagar District of Gujarat. It is on the mouth of the Gomti River into Gulf of Kutch. The city lies in the westernmost part of India. On this island Visvakarma built a the city of Krishna with gold and he called it Dwaraka meaning Entrance into the Heaven.

 

Thus by all expectations this Kingdom is the ideal Vaishnava Kingdom of God and its development and its final doom will give us some insight into the Kingdom of God as envisaged by the Vaishnavites.

 Here is the summary as given by Dr. Ambedkar.

The Kingdom of Krishna

 

Krishna died as the Ruler of Dwaraka. What was this Dwaraka like and what sort of death awaited him?

In founding his city of Dwaraka he had taken care to settle thousands of ' unfortunates ' there. As the Harivamsa said: ' O, hero having conquered the abodes of the Daityas (giants) with the help of brave Yadus, the Lord settled thousands of public women in Dwaraka ". Dancing, singing and drinking by men and women married and prostitutes filled the city of Dwaraka. We get a description of a seatrip in which these women formed a principal source of enjoyment.

 

Excited by their singing and dancing, the brothers Krishna and Balarama joined in the dancing with their wives. They were followed by the other Yadava chiefs and by Arjuna and Narada.

Then a fresh excitement was sought. Men and women all fell into the sea and at Krishna's suggestion, the gentlemen began a jalakrida (water sport), with the ladies, Krishna leading one party, and Balarama another, while the courtesans added to the amusement by their music. This was followed by eating and drinking and this again by a special musical performance in which the leaders themselves exhibited their respective skill in handling various musical instruments.

 

It will thus be seen what a jolly people these Yadavas were, and with what contempt they would have treated the objections urged nowadays by the Brahmans and such other purists against notch parties and the native theatres.

 

It was in one of these revels—a drunken revel—that the Yadavas were destroyed.

 

They, it is said, had incurred the displeasure of a number of sages by a childish trick played on the latter by some of their boys. These boys disguised Samba, one of Krishna's sons, as a woman with child, tying an iron pestle below his navel, and asked the sages to say what child the 'woman' would give birth to. The enraged sage said 'she' would produce an iron pestle which would be the ruin of the Yadavas. Fearing the worst consequences from this curse, the boys took the pestle to the sea-side and rubbed it away. But its particles came out in the form of erakas, a kind of reeds and its last remaining bit, which had been thrown into the sea, was afterwards recovered and used by a hunter as the point of an arrow; Now it was with these erakas that the Yadavas killed themselves.

 

Apparently this gives us another insight into the origins of the Krishna cult probably from the Bacchus cult of the Greek.  The position of Dwaraka and the descriptions fit the Bacchus orgies of the Greek and the Romans.

Megasthenes: Indika
I FRAGM. I.B.
Diod. III. 63.

Concerning Dionusos.

       Now some, as I have already said, supposing that there were three individuals of this name, who lived in different ages, assign to each appropriate achievements. They say, then, that the most ancient of them was Indos, and that as the country, with its genial temperature, produced spontaneously the vine-tree in great abundance, he was the first who crushed grapes and discovered the use of the properties of wine. In like manner he ascertained what culture was requisite for figs and other fruit trees, and transmitted this knowledge to after-times; and, in a word, it was he who found out how these fruits should be gathered in, whence also he was called Lenaios. This same Dionusos, however, they call also Katapogon, since it is a custom among the Indians to nourish their beards with great care to the very end of their life. Dionusos then, at the head of an army, marched to every part of the world, and taught mankind the planting of the vine, and how to crush grapes in the winepress, whence he was called Lenaios. Having in like manner imparted to all a knowledge of his other inventions, he obtained after his departure from among men immortal honour from those who had benefited by his labours. It is further said that the place is pointed out in India even to this day where the god had been, and that cities are called by his name in the vernacular dialects, and that many other important evidences still exist of his having been born in India, about which it would be tedious to write.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omens appeared in Dwaraka, Day by day strong winds blew. Earthen pots showed cracks or broke from no apparent cause. Society became corrupt. The day of the new moon coincided with the thirteenth and the fourteenth  lunation. The fourteenth lunation has been made the fifteenth by Rahu once more. Such a day had happened at the time of the great battle of  the Kurukshetra War. It has once more appeared after 36 years. The messengers proclaimed at the command of Vasudeva Krishna that the Vrishnis should make a journey to the seacoast for bathing in the sacred waters of the ocean. (16,2)

  

La jeunesse de Bacchus (The Youth of Bacchus) William Bouguereau 1884.

The Yadavas, then, with their wives, proceeded to Prabhasa and took up their residence there, each in the (temporary) habitation that was assigned to him, and all having an abundance of provisions consisting of edibles and drink. The Vrishnis, mixing with wine the food that had been cooked for high-souled Brahmanas, gave it away unto monkeys and apes. Those heroes of fierce energy then began their high revels, of which drinking formed the chief feature, at Prabhasa. Then a dispute arose between Satyaki and Kritavarman on the wrongs they did in the Kurukshetra War. This dispute turned into a great massacre, in which all the Yadava heroes were slain. (16,3)

 

Balarama sat down downhearted at the sad end of all the great Yadavas. His spirit came out of his body in the form of a large serpent i.e., Sesha Naga, the divine snake whose incarnation he was supposed to be. 

 

Krishna found himself isolated with the consequence of all his immoral theology and isolated and dejected.  He send for his friend Arjuna to take charge of the land left behind by him, who would take charge of them.   As he was sitting under a tree, hidden by its leafy and outstretching branches, and composed his mind in meditation, a hunter named Jara mistook him for a deer and hit him with an arrow, one pointed with the last remaining bit of the fatal pestle. Krishna died there.

 

 

 

 

What is the end of Krsna? The death of a hero, brought down in a duel of epic dimensions by an opponent of mighty prowess? Hardly, Leaving a Dvaraka filled with wailing widows and children, having seen his elder brother Balarama die, he lies down under a tree and dies of the injury caused by an arrow shot into his foot by a ere tribal hunter, a nisada, not even a warrior out on a hunt.

http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/076c.htm

Arjuna arrived at Dwaraka and addressed the chief officers, to prepare to leave Dwaraka within 7 days, as Dwaraka is going to sink in the ocean. Krishna's grandson Vajra was chosen as their king to be ruled at Indraprastha Arjuna then proceeded to the place where the Vrishnis were slaughtered. Searching out the bodies then of Bala Rama and Vasudeva Krishna, Arjuna caused them to be burnt by persons skilled in that act. On the seventh day, Arjuna evacuated Dwaraka Island. After all the people had set out, the ocean flooded Dvaraka, which still teemed with wealth of every kind, with its waters. Whatever portion of the ground was passed over, ocean immediately flooded over with his waters. Beholding this wonderful sight, the inhabitants of Dvaraka walked faster and faster. (16,7)

In Mahabharata, there is a specific account about the submerging of Dwaraka by the sea, which reads thus:

“The sea, which had been beating against the shores, suddenly broke the boundary that was imposed on it by nature. The sea rushed into the city. It coursed through the streets of the beautiful city. The sea covered up everything in the city. Even as they were all looking, Arjuna saw the beautiful buildings becoming submerged one by one. Arjuna took a last look at the mansion of Krishna. It was soon covered by the sea. In a matter of a few moments it was all over. The sea had now become as placid as a lake. There was no trace of the beautiful city which had been the favourite haunt of all the Pandavas. Dwaraka was just a name; just a memory.”
Arjuna took the surviving Yadavas men and women to Hastinapur. A number of Ahiras, armed only with lathis, attacked his party. But Arjuna lost the power of his mighty arm and his unrivalled skill as an archer which killed his teachers and brothers in Kurushetra and could not defend Yadavas who were left in his care by Krishna.  Ahiras carried off many of the men,women, and children as slaves. He reached Hastinapur only with a small remnant.

 

 

Tsunami swallowing the island

 

Dwaraka
- A LOST CITY RECOVERED –

http://www.arianuova.org/arianuova.it/arianuova.it/Components/English/A12-Dwaraka.html

Dwaraka was a western Indian city submerged by the sea right after the death of Sri Krishna.  … But in the early eighties an important archaeological site was found at the site of the legendary city of Lord Krishna.

 Dwaraka is mentioned as Golden City in Mahabharata, Skanda Purana, Vishnu Purana and Harivamsha.

 

Dwaraka

  

 That was the sad end of the Playboy town of Dwaraka which Krishna conceived as the City of God with his theology of Gita.   If it gives any lesson we seem to have missed it and we are still teaching the Gita as the greatest ideal of mankind.

Incidentaly according to the Yuga theory, the death of Krishna inaugurated the Kali Yuga and the dharma left for us in this Yuga is the Gita dharma. The purpose of avatar according to Gita is to regain dharma where dharma has declined.  Now that Krishna came as an Avatar to put it right, the dharma of the Yuga is Svadharma which is the god given dharma of this Kali Yuga.  It is probably meant by the Supreme Personality to lead the present world to its end and to its destruction.  That is the leela of the th Supreme Personality. He used the same technique in his Buddha Avatar.

“Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga [he] will become the Buddha by name, the son of Anjana, in Bihar, for the purpose of confusing those who were enemies of the devas” srimad-bhagavatam 1.3.24

As the purpose of Buddha Avatar was to delude the masses into error, was the purpose of Krishna Avatar also the same?  After all in the Sri Dasavatara-stotra and Upaaya from the Gita-govinda, Jayadeva Gosvami substitutes Buddha in place of Krishna as the ninth avatar just before the final Kalki avatar. Krishna’s death inaugurated the Kalki Yuga for which Gita is the Dharma.  Was Krishna cutting out the one of the two legs of the Holy Cow of Dharma to make it stand on one leg?  Are we misled by Krishna?

Inaugurating Kali Yuga