Gita As It was

“Is the Mahabharata epic -- the text of 100,000 verses --
which is a source for the events of the War to be taken as
history? The epic itself claims to have been originally just
8,800 verses composed by Krsna Dvaipayana Vyasa and called the
Jaya.
Later, it became 24,000 verses, called the
Bharata,
when it was recited by Vaisampayana. Finally, it was
recited as the 100,000 versed epic (the
Mahabharata)
by Ugrasravas, the son of Lomaharsana. Thus the
tradition acknowledges that the Mahabharata grew in stages.
The core of the story is very ancient”
Subhash Kak
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/MahabharataII.pdf
Mahabharata war probably was a real war, which was located
somewhere near Delhi area between two tribes over power.
However, it is evident that the picture developed in the
Mahabharata story is a vastly exaggerated one. That is not
really very surprising since exaggeration and ballooning up were
part of the style of literature in those days. It was
still only a story telling and not a scripture. The stories
about a war might have been in existence for a long time but it
was not written down well into the Christian era and that in
Sanskrit language, which we know, came into existence only after
the second century AD.
Social
and Economic Aspects of the BHAGAVAD-GITA
http://www.geocities.com/dialecticalmethod/mar1.html
D.D.
Kosambi
- Mathematician, Historian, Marxist, Peace Activist
This helps date the work as
somewhere between 150-350 AD, nearer the later than the
earlier date. The ideas are older, not original, except
perhaps the novel use of bhakti. The language is high
classical Sanskrit such as could not have been written much
before the Guptas, though the metre still shows the occasional
irregularity (G. 8. 10d, 8. 11 b, 15. 3a, &c) in tristubhs,
characteristic of the M'bh as a whole. The Sanskrit
of the high Gupta period, shortly after the time of the
Gita, would have been more careful in versification.
It is known in any case that the
M'bh and the Puranas suffered a major revisions in the
period given above. The M'bh in particular was in the
hands of Brahmins belonging to the Bhrgu clan, who inflated it
to about its present bulk (though the process of inflation
continued afterwards) before the Gupta age came to flower.
How much of these are true?
So any attempt to a scripture truth out of it will eventually
lead to fallacies. Here is the result of Dr. D.D.
Kosambi’s research on the warriors on the battle field.
Myth
and Reality
Studies in the Formation of Indian Culture
by D. D. KOSAMBI
First printed 1962
If a Mahabharata war had actually been fought on the scale
reported, nearly five million fighting men killed each other
in an 18-day battle between Delhi and Thanesar; about 130,000
chariots (with their horses), an equal number of elephants and
thrice that many riding horses were deployed. This means at
least as many camp-followers and attendants as fighters. A
host of this size could not be supplied without a total
population of 200 millions, which India did not attain till
the British period, and could not have reached without
plentiful and cheap iron and steel for ploughshares and
farmers1 tools. Iron was certainly not available in any
quantity to Indian peasants before the 6th century BC. The
greatest army camp credibly reported was of 400,000 men under
Candragupta Maurya, who commanded the surplus of the newly
developed Gangetic basin. The terms patti, gulma etc., given
as tactical units in the Mbh did net acquire that meaning till
after the Mauryans. The heroes fought with bows and arrows
from their chariots, as if the numerous cavalry did not exist;
but cavalry—which appeared comparatively late in ancient
Indian warfare—made the fighting chariots obsolete as was
proved by Alexander in the Punjab.
Evidently the exaggeration is obvious. However several attempts
have been made to date the war using astronomical references and
local touches within the story. It is no wonder that it
gives varying dates.
1.
The date of 3137 BC. is the traditional date.
2. The date of 2449 BC. This is based on a statement by
Varahamihira in 505 AD in chapter 13 of the Brihat Samhita,
where it is claimed that the commencement of the Saka era took
place 2,526 years after the rule of the king Yudhisthira. If the
Saka era meant here is the Salivahana era (78 AD), then the date
follows. Some
scholars have suggested that this Saka era refers to the
one started by an earlier Saka king in Central Asia and that
this date is not at variance with the Kali date of Aryabhata.
3. In the
" Scientific dating of Mahabharata War" by Dr P V Vartak in Marathi
taking into consideration of "All the twelve planets
confirm their said positions on 16th October 5561 years B.C.
along with two Amavasyas, two eclipses, Kshaya Paksha and a
Comet. Thus, in all 18 mathematical positions fix the same date.
Therefore, we have to accept this date of the Mahabharat War, if
we want to be scientific. Please note that all the twelve
planets will come in the same positions again only after 2229
crores of years.” Hence this is a unique date.
4. The Celestial Key to the Vedas: Discovering the Origins
of the World's Oldest Civilization
By B. G. Sidharth 1999 gives the date as around 1350 BC
4. The date of 1924 BC. is suggested based on Puranic
genealogies that see a gap of 1000 years or so between the War
and the rule of the Nandas (424 BC) we get the date of 1424 BC.
5. In
MAHABHARATKA KALA-NIRNAYA: Dr. Mohan Gupta,
Visva-Vidyalaya-Prakashan, Chowk, Varanasi-221001 determines the
date as 1952 B.C
which is confirmed by Puranic genealogies which count up to this
date by taking the 1500 years interval between King Parikshit (Arjuna's
grandson) and Mahapadmananda, plus 100 years of the rule of the
Nandas, plus 322 years, the historical date of Chandra Gupta
Maurya, all before the birth of Christ.
6.
In Gopala Aiyer’s “The Date of the Mahabharata War”
Indian Review Vol. II, January-December 1901 edited by
G.A.Natesan. gives the date of the war as 1190 B.C. Sri
Aurobindo was obviously fully convinced by Aiyer’s arguments,
because he writes, “It is now known beyond reasonable
doubt that the Mahabharata war was fought out in or about 1190
B.C.”
7. The date of around 1000 BC. is the date popularized by
Western Indologists as being most “reasonable” based on
archaeological data.
There are a host of other dates given. We should expect such
variations since there are several layers of literature
overlapping well into the Christian era. Again how far we
can rely on the astronomical data given as authoritative and not
mythical is a real problem.
The appearance of the Gita Upadesa – the teaching of Krishana –
the divine song – in the middle of the war and its intent is
certainly a problem. We can be certain that it was a very
late interpolation by the Brahminic hierarchy for specific
purposes.
World
Spiritual Traditions
http://oaks.nvg.org/pv6bk5.html
THE POEM Bhagavad
Gita ("Song of Lord Krishna", "Song of God") is said to be
the single most important religious text of Hinduism. It forms
part of Book 6 of the Mahabharata ("Great Epic of the
Bharata Dynasty"), which is a very long poem composed between
the 4th century BC and the 4th century AD. It is in the form
of a dialogue.
The Bhagavad Gita is of a later date
than the major parts of the Mahabharata and was
probably written in the 1st or 2nd century AD. It consists of
700 Sanskrit verses divided into 18 chapters.
The hard core of the poem: As a result of going to war, a man
called Arjuna gets confused, does as guru-dicatated, and ends
up worn down and miserable - and so do his brothers. A whole
caste is wiped out. That is how the great
Mahabharata
ends.

Swamy Vivekananda
asks:"First, was Bhagavat Gita part of Mahabharatham and was
the author of Gita really Veda Vyasa?" (P 506 to 509 of
Volume IV)
“A great many people do not believe that he ever existed. Some
believe that [the worship of Krishna grew out of] the old sun
worship. There seem to have been several Krishnas; one was
mentioned in the Upanishads, another was a king, another a
general. All have lumped into one Krishna.”. CW, Vol.1:
Krishna, p.438.
Before Sankara Acharya mentions about Gita in 8th century A.D,
the book Bhagavat Gita was not known anywhere. Some people
believe that Sankaracharya was the real author of Bhagavat
Gita and he simply inserted it in the Bharatham epic.
http://www.geocities.com/ejking2002/prajapathi.html
The Bhagavad-Gita
By Indrani Bandyopadhyay
http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/asia/as-bandy.htm
Upon reading the
Mahabharata, one
notices that its middle is out of kilter with its beginning
and ending: that amongst the grand and richly detailed
narrative of two families lies a text that hardly fits the
epic's theme or style. This text is the
Bhagavad-Gita.
It is no great surprise that a warrior (in this case, Arjun)
should should be struggling with the notion of death, truth,
and duty as he goes to war: modern literature is well
represented in its depictions of the misgivings of soldiers.
But what is surprising is the vehemence with which war, death,
and a soldier's duty are defended, and especially by Krishna,
the chosen Lord of the peaceable Vaishnavites.
The
Bhagavad-Gita
comes to us as a section of the
Mahabharata, the
epic and romantic tale of two armies and the great battle of
Kurukshetra. Here the
Gita sits, but not entirely comfortably. In the
first volume of A
History of India, Romila Thapar explains that "the
Epics had originally been secular . . . [and were] revised by
the Brahmans with a view to using them as religious
literature; thus many interpolations were made, the most
famous being the addition of the
Bhagavad Gita to
the Mahabharata"
(pp. 133-4). She mentions that the
Mahabharata
itself "may have been the description of a local feud," but in
its final form becomes "no longer the story of war, but has
acquired a number of episodes (some of which are unrelated to
the main story) and a variety of interpolations, many of which
are important in themselves . . ."; and that both epics were
"concerned with events which took place between c. 1000 and
700 BC, but as the versions which survive date from the first
half of the first millennium AD they too can hardly be
regarded as authentic sources for the study of the period to
which they pertain" (pp. 32, 31).

Judaism and the Gentile Faiths:
Comparative Studies in Religion By Joseph P.
Gita was interpolated into Mahabharata sometime during the
first century C.E….As in the case of Judaism, the Gnostic
sects and the mystery cults of the Greco-Roman world may well
have been the channels…..
Dr. Phulgenda Sinha places the interpolations as late as
to around 8th century AD and ascribes it as a result
of Christian and Islamic influence. According to Sinha,
there was an original gita of 84 as found in the Bali version,
verses written by Vyasa, which is consistent in basic theme with
Kapila's Samkhya Darshan (700 BC) and Patanjali's Yoga sutra
(400 BC). The Bhagavagita of the modern form is, in his angle,
intentionally constructed by Brahmins in the period of 800 AD.
It borrowed themes of monotheism, hell, heaven, sin and
salvation themes from Christanity and Islam.

The Gita As It Was:
Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita
by Phulgenda Sinha
The Gita as It Was: Rediscovering the Original Bhagavadgita
Book by Phulgenda Sinha; Open Court, 1987. 268 pgs.
The corruption of the original Gita
was due to the convergence of several conditions, both
internal and external. Externally, three great
religions--Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--all believing in
the concept of one Almighty God, were well established in the
Middle East, with which India had extensive trade
relationships through the port of Alexandria. By250 A.D.,
Indian merchants had established colonies in Alexandria, which
provided a meeting ground for Indian scholars, who could
exchange philosophical ideas with the preachers, teachers,
and missionaries of the new faiths. Thus, some Indians, mostly
from the South, had become acquainted with the doctrines of
these organized religions centuries before the actual revision
of the Gita took place.
Second, it is claimed that the Syrian Christian Sect in Kerala
was founded by Saint Thomas, who was martyred at Mylapore, a
suburb of Madras, in 68 A.D. Further, by the middle of the
fourth century, the persecuted Persian Christians had set up
their colonies on the Malabar Coast. It is obvious
that the philosophy of monotheism had made its entry into
India, in some limited but concrete form, long before it was
accepted and introduced through the Bhagavadgita in about 800
A.D.
Among the external factors, the most conspicuous and
dominating appears to be the Islamic invasions and their
subsequent conquest of Sind (then the western part of India
and now in Pakistan) during the early part of the eighth
century. After the death of Muhammad ( 570-632) the Arabs,…….
Reworking the original Gita to form the Bhagavadgita was not
merely the modification of a book. It was a surreptitious plot
to dismantle the whole intellectual edifice of Indian culture
which had been built up over a thousand years. The changers
not only stopped the tide of rationalism in Indian life but
also seduced people into believing and accepting the false as
genuine, alien as indigenous, religious as political, and
mystical as rational. The consequences were deep,
all-encompassing, and bewildering. India, indeed, was pushed
into a 'dark age'.
It has already been mentioned that when the original Gita was
altered, the interpolators also made changes in many other
works of that time to establish textual support in their
favor. It was for this reason that the interpolations were
made in the Rig Veda, the Epics, Samkhya Karika, and Yoga
Sutra. It is obvious that there could have been numerous
alterations in many other texts, still to be detected.

It has also been pointed out that bands of proselytizers for
the new Brahmanic faith were organized at four different
centers (mathas) during the time of Shankaracharya. These
teachers received increasing political protection and
patronage. At the same time, the national opponents of the new
faith were forced into silence.
In such an atmosphere, the people had to accept the doctrines
of the new faith even when they did not agree with them. This
enforced obedience of the Indian people towards the newly
coined doctrines and codes of behavior which, though
beneficial to the Brahmans as a caste, were disastrous to
India as a nation, as a political entity, and as a culture.
The repercussions of these changes were so far-reaching that
they can not be adequately discussed under any single
category. I have, therefore, preferred to cover them under
four different subheadings:
(i) political submissiveness;
(ii) philosophical distortions;
(iii) mystification of Yoga; and
(iv) religious and cultural effects.

Quest for the Original Gita by Gajanan Shripat Khair (Vedam
books) proposes that it was the work of three different authors
of three different periods inculcating the concepts of those
periods.
The
Brahminic interpolations effectively took over the monistic
concepts of Christians and Islam and then interpolated a
relative ethics which justifies the terrorist activities of the
Brahmins to take control of the society.
We shall now look at the Gita ethics as proposed by Krishna.
Morality and Ethics according to Krishna


satyameva jayate naanritam
satyena pantha vitato devayanah
yenaa kramantyarishayo hyaaptakaamaa
yatra tat satyasya paramam nidhaanam
Only truth
prevails, not untruth;
by the path of truth is laid out, the Divine way,
on which the sages of yore, fulfilled in their desires,
attain the supreme treasure of Truth.
Mundaka Upanishad
3.1.6
This
is the motto of India as it appears in the seal of India just
below the Asoka Lions. This verse is taken from Mundaka
Upanishad and asserts the absolute existence of Truth.
Truth is always associated with God himself because God is Good. That is how we define Good. Hence
Mundaka Upanishad proclaims that Truth will be victorious
always. If that is so there must be something which is
immutable. Truth cannot be something which changes.
This is the basic stand of the Upanishads.
However when we come to
Vaishnavite teaching we are confronted with a totally different
stand point where the concept of an absolute truth is questioned
reducing morality into a relative contextual affair.
We will try to analyse the Bhagavat Gita as we have it today.
There is no doubt that it is a later interpolation into the
Mahabharata story by a Krishna cult devotee. As the cult
gained prominence in due course it was accepted as part of the
Mahabharata itself.
The very question of the
morality of killing his own cousins just to get the power and
kingdom was the problem of Arjuna.

“We are resolved to commit very sinful acts,
ready to slay our kinsmen to satisfy our greed” Arjun
“Alas, we are resolved to
commit very sinful acts, ready to slay our kinsmen to satisfy
our greed for the pleasure of a kingdom! It would be far
better for me to let the sons of Dritharasthra kill me, unarmed
and unresisting. Arjuna, having thus spoken on the
battlefield, cast aside his bow and arrows and sat down on his
chariot-seat. His mind was overcome with grief. (1:45-46)
Arjuna said:
"Krishna, how can I fight with arrows on the battlefield against
men like Bishma and Drona, who are worthy of my worship?
It would be better for me to live in this world on alms rather
than to slay these high-souled teachers. It I kill them, what
wealth and pleasures I would enjoy, would be tainted with their
blood. We do not know which would be better - conquering
them or being conquered by them. Arrayed against us stand the
sons of Dritarastr; after slaying them we should not wish to
live. (2:4-6)
To this eternal moral question the advise of
Krishna was:
"The wise men who reached true knowledge see with equal vision a
brahman (priest), a cow, an elephant, a dog and a dog-eater One
whose mind is free from egotism, whose intellect is pure, is not
bound even though he slays many people, for he does not truly
slay. Those who think that they can kill or those that think
they can be killed are confused in the manifestations of
ignorance. The infinite, immortal soul can neither kill nor be
killed" (2,17-19).
Thus to an enlightened one who has realized the oneness of the
universe in Atman, there is no morality. Everything is
moral. There is no killer nor killed.
Morality
depends only on motives and not on the action or its effect
S. Dasgupta, Indian Philosophy, Motilal Banarsidass, 1991,
vol.2
The theory of the Gita that, if actions are performed with an
unattached mind, then their defects cannot touch the
performer, distinctly implies that the goodness or badness of
an action does not depend upon external effects of the action,
but upon the inner motive of action. If there is no motive of
pleasure or self-gain, then the action performed cannot bind
the performer; for it is only the bond of desires and
self-love that really makes an action one's own and makes one
reap its good or bad fruits. Morality from this point of view
becomes wholly subjective, and the special feature of the Gita
is that it tends to make all actions non-moral by cutting away
the bonds that connect an action with its performer (Ibid, p.
507).
The Gita combines together different conceptions of God
without feeling the necessity of reconciling the oppositions
or contradictions involved in them. It does not seem to be
aware of the philosophical difficulty of combining the concept
of God as unmanifested, differenceless entity with the notion
of Him as the super-person Who incarnates Himself on earth in
the human form and behaves in the human manner.
It is not aware of the difficulty that, if all good and evil
should have emanated from God, and if there be ultimately no
moral responsibility, and if everything in the world should
have the same place in God, there is no reason why God should
trouble to incarnate Himself as man, when there is a
disturbance of the Vedic dharma. If God is impartial to all,
and if He is absolutely unperturbed, why should He favour the
man who clings to Him, and why, for his sake, overrule the
world-order of events and in his favour suspend the law of
karma. (p533).
“Morality depends only on motives
and not on
the action or its effect”
Acting in this way, one brings his actions as sacrifices to
Krishna and therefore they do not generate karmic seeds:
“Consider all your acts as acts of devotion to me, whether
eating, offering, giving away, performing austerities. Perform
them as an offering to me. In this way you will be free from
karma, you will be liberated and you will come to me” (9,27).
Modern Godmen in
India: A Sociological Appraisal
By Uday Mehta, Akshayakumar Ramanlal Desai
“They ascribe personality to the Supreme God but deny definite
moral character to him. Consequently, the whole system
becomes amoral. Then to bring in morality they have to
assume an independent moral law – the law of Karma. But
it results in various inconsistencies. We have noted in
their teaching that God is supreme cheater as well. He
is not always honest and reliable. He can take
incarnation as Buddha to deceive people.”

Buddha -God incarnate to
deceive people
Religious Doctrines in
the Mahābhārata
By Nicholas Sutton
6. The Ethics of the Bhagavad-gita
In 2.31-37 and 3.9-16, he asserts the primacy of sva-dharma
over Arjuna’s notion of morality. The views expressed by
Arjuna in favour of non-violence cannot be sustained because
he is a kstriya and therefore his dharma is to fight.
(2.31-37). Warfare is a ritual act for a warrior, intimately
connected with the execution of yajnas – yajnah karma-samudbhavah
(3.14) – which nourish and sustain both the gods and the
earth. Hence in terms of the previous discussion, Krsna
in the opening chapters of the Gita rejects Arjuna’s moral
view by stressing the ascetic and ritual ethics just as Vyasa
does to Ydhisthira in the debate that follows the battle.
It is for this reason that Edgerton asserts that morality is
underplayed in the gita, a view confirmed by Dasgupta who
states, “the Gita does not rise to the ideal of regarding all
beings as friends or to that of universal compassion’ and
“Gita does not rise to the dieal of regarding all beings as
friends or to that of universal compassion.” And. “Gita has no
programme of universal altruism, and is never a handbook of
good works.”
“Since killing is your duty, Kill.” That is what Krsna
says. Apart from the teaching Krishna’s acts and advise,
during the war that followed this same principle of Sva-dharma
(your own dharma which in this case translates as personal
interest) was shown in application. If it is advantages for you
to lie, deceive or kill do that with soberness and without
guilt.
“the Gita does not rise to the ideal of regarding all beings as
friends or to that of universal compassion”
Look at the killing of Dronacharya
Killing
of Dronacharya
According to the Mahabharatha, during the battle at Kurukshetra, (a
war between the Pandavas and Kauravas) the warrior Acharya
Drona was un-stoppable, until Krishna devises a plan. Krishna
plots to trick Acharya Drona into believing that his son
Aswatthama, has been killed. Krishna involves three of the
five Pandava brothers(Yudishtra, Beemasena and Arjuna) to
deceive Acharya Drona.
This incident is described by the following
quotation from the Mahabharata, translated by C
Rajagopalachari. Chapter XC, page 381-382, the 44th edition,
2004 states:
“ ‘O Arjuna’, said Krishna , ‘there is none
that can defeat this Drona, fighting according to the strict
rules of war. We cannot cope with him unless dharma is
discarded. We have no other way open. There is one thing that
will desist him from fighting. If he hears Aswatthama is dead
….’
Arjuna shrank in horror at the proposal as he
could not bring himself to tell a lie. Those who were nearby
also rejected the idea … Yudhistra stood for a while
reflecting deeply. ‘I shall bear the burden of this sin’, he
said to resolve the deadlock.
‘I have killed Aswatthama’, Bhemasena uttered these words,
greatly ashamed. “the elephant” in mumble
# To kill
Bhisma, Sikhandin was used as a living shield against whom
that perfect knight would not raise a weapon, because of
doubtful sex.
# Drona was polished off while stunned by the
deliberate false report of his son's death.
# Karna
was shot down against all rules of chivalry when dismounted
and unarmed;
#
Duryodhana was bludgeoned to death after a foul mace blow that
shattered his thigh.
This is by no means the complete
list of iniquities.
D.D.
Kosambi

How Bhishma was killed.

Krishna using Chakra against Bhishma. It was Arjuna who
stopped him reminding him of his oath.

Krishna adivises Arjun to keep Sikhandi the eunuch in front and
then shoot down Bhishma as Bhishmacharya refused to fight with
one who is neither a man nor a woman
Krishna
told Arjuna: "Do it! You will not incur any sin. I shall
protect you."
It was not "moral" to kill Dronacharya, Bhishma and all the
other great and pious heroes fighting for the Kauravas, but
Arjuna surrendered to Krishna, his guru. He thus surpassed the
mundane principles of morality, which involve following rules
and regulations to keep peace and order in human society.
http://www.vtweb.com/gosai/krishna-talk/pure-devotion.html
B. B. Bodhayan President of Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math
“Good and evil of this world of duality are unreal,
are spoken of by words,
and exist only in the mind.”
Bhagavatam,
XI,
ch
XXII
Five occasions when you should tell lie
Vasishtha's Smriti

Finding Yudhisthira unwilling
to tell a lie, Krishna overcame his reluctance by a long
exhortation, in the course of which he announced his ethics of
untruth in the following edifying text from
Vasishtha's Smriti.
"In marriage,
in amorous dealings,
when one's life is in danger,
when the whole of one's possession is going to be lost, and
when a Brahman's interest is at
stake,
untruth should be told.
The wise have said that speaking untruth on these five
occasions is not a sin."
Krishna thus declares
the dharma
that is to be followed in
Kaliyuga
by cutting off the third leg of dharma
He inaugurated Kaliyuga with his death.
Now on dharma was to stand on One leg.
Buddha and Mahavira were fighting against this decay.
They insisted on Ahimsa and Righteousness.
Jesus taught that even if you are to lay down your life,
stand for what is right.
Vasishtha Smriti

Bhagavatha Purana,
Sage Sukracharya
(He was the divine teacher to all the Dasyas or Devils)
also clarified it as:
While dealing the women
and at fixing the weddings
To save the life and wield off inevitable dishonor
For saving others from fear and protecting cows and Brahmins
You can utter a lie and itself is not a sin at the crucial
hour

Babasaheb Ambedkar in his Riddle of Hinduism gives four such
occasions
Riddle In Hinduism
By Dr. Babasaheb B.R.Ambedkar
Actions of Krishna during the Mahabharata War may now be
reviewed. The following are some of them:
1. When Satyaki, Krishna's friend, was hard pressed by
Bhurisrava, son of Somadatta, Krishna induced Arjuna to cut
off his arms, and thereby made it easy for Satyaki to kill
him.
2. When Abhimanyu was unfairly surrounded and killed by
seven Kaurava warriors, Arjuna vowed the death of the ring
leader, Jayadratha, next day before sunset, or, failing that
his own death by entering into fire. When the Sun was about to
set, and Jayadratha remained unslain, Krishna miraculously hid
the Sun, on which Jayadratha, having come out Krishna
uncovered the Sun, and Arjuna killed Jayadratha when he was
unaware.

3. Despairing of Drona being ever killed by fair means
Krishna advised the Pandavas to kill him unfairly. If he could
he made to cast down his arms, he could, Krishna said, be
killed easily. This could be done if he was told that his son,
Asvathama was dead. Bhima tried the suggested device He killed
an elephant named after Drona's son and told him that
Asvathama was killed. The warrior was somewhat depressed by
the news, but did not quite believe it. At this juncture he
was hard pressed by a number of sages to cease fighting and
prepare himself for heaven with meditations worthy of a
Brahmana. This checked the hero still more and he applied to
the truthful Yudhisthira for correct information about his
son. Finding Yudhisthira unwilling to tell a lie, Krishna
overcame his reluctance by a long exhortation, in the course
of which he announced his ethics of untruth in the following
edifying text from Vasishtha's Smriti.
" In marriage, in amorous dealings, when one's life is in
danger, when the whole of one's possession is going to be
lost, and when a Brahman's interest is at stake, untruth
should be told. The wise have said that speaking untruth on
these five occasions is not a sin." Yudhisthir's scruples were
stifled, and he said to his preceptor, " Yes, Asvathama is
killed " adding in a low voice, " that is, an elephant " which
last words, however were not heard by Dron. His depression was
complete, and on hearing some bitterly reproachful words from
Bhima, he gave up his arms, and while sitting in a meditative
posture, was killed by Dhristhadyumna.

4. When Bhima was unsuccessfully fighting with
Duryodhana by the side of the Dvaipayana Lake Krishna reminded
him through Arjuna that he had vowed the breaking of his
opponent's thighs. Now striking a rival below the navel was
unfair, but as Duryodhana could not be killed except by such
an unfair means, Krishna advised Bhima to adopt the same and
Bhima did." The death of Krishna throws a flood of light on
his morals.

Ethics in Mahabharatha
April 14, 2006 by
Prabu Karthik.
We can also say the same about the killing of Karna and
Duryodhana.
It was not exactly ethical to attack someone who is busy
lifting his chariot which gets stuck in the mud.
Similarly, Bheema had no business to smash Duryodhana’s thighs
as part of accepted Kadha war practices. Krishna subtly
prompts him to do that citing Bheema’s oath when Panchali was
humiliated.
So I think Vyasa wants to imply subtly that when you enter a
war, a few ethical blemishes here and there are inevitable.
But maybe it’s just me. Each person can interpret it in his
own way.
But the fact remains that the practices of Pandavas to win the
war was anything but ethical.
The following are from Indo link story of Mahabharata:
“It was the day when Karna
was in command of the Kaurava army. He decided to have his
final battle with Arjuna that day. Arjuna was also ready for
him. The armies of the Kaurava and Pandava were skeptical of
the outcome as both were equally powerful. When Karna
proceeded towards Arjuna on the battlefield, Yudhishthira came
in between and Karna cut his weapons in pieces. He spared
Yudhishthira’s life as he had promised to Kunti. Karna soon
stood face to face with Arjuna. Suddenly Karna’s charioteer
was killed and one of the chariot’s wheels broke down. Karna
requested Arjuna to stop fighting while his wheel was fixed.
Karna was unarmed and it was unethical for Arjuna to attack
Karna in that situation. But Krishna spoke otherwise, “Karna,
this war itself is unethical. It will be foolish of Arjuna not
to take this opportunity to kill you.”
Krishna encouraged Arjuna to kill Karna instantly. Thus Karna
was killed mercilessly in the hands of his brother Arjuna.

“The Pandavas were worried. At the rate that they were loosing
soldiers, they would not be able to hold out too long against
Bheeshma. Bheeshma was blessed with the power to choose
his time of death. So, he was practically invincible. When the
Pandavas were about to give up, Krishna came up with a plan.
Krishna knew that Bheeshma would not fight the eunuch,
Srikhandi. To Bheeshma, a noble warrior like him would
consider it a disgrace to fight with a eunuch. At one point he
had even proudly promised to drop his arms if such a situation
ever arose. Krishna knew Bheeshma’s weakness and wanted to
take advantage of this. So he asked Arjuna to keep Shrikhandi,
a eunuch, in front of the chariot while fighting with Bheeshma.
This would stop Bheeshma, and Arjuna could take this
opportunity to immobilize him with a volley of arrows.
The plan worked and Bheeshma fell down on a bed of arrows.
That was the tenth day of war. The fighting stopped so that
all could pay respects to a hero of all times.”

Here is a portion from a blog (names are witheld)
Here is the justification for Krishna as given by a blogger:
“:) If Tsunami could happen and kill thousands of people...
God is there, and yet if this happened, i do not see much of a
contradiction in Krishna playing a role in getting the forces
that support Duryodhana killed..
:)
To Krishna its just a play
and he is beyond the play! The role of a charmer and the role
of a politician. Krishna played both the roles. Krishna does
not cheat. He says, if this is the rule of the game, ill use
the rule effectively. He says in the Gita very clearly that
even before Arjuna killed them they are dead! Death and Birth
are the laws of nature”
The original questioner of the Blog is concerned as follows:
“And so against all rules of accepted chivalry,
it
is all right to chop off Dronacharya's head after stunning him
with false news of his son's death?
It
is all right to kill Bhisma after shooting from behind a
person of questionable sex who Bhisma, being a preux
chevalier, would not attack?
It
is all right to kill Karna in a completely wicked and
treacherous manner?
It
is ok to advise Bhima to aim his mace (gada) at Duryodhana's
thigh, thereby shattering it, against the existing rule of
battle?
Are these really righteous and unquestionable actions?
And this person, who repeatedly gives crooked advice, is the
one we must turn to for learning about ethics and ethical
conduct?”

Everything thus becomes sacred as long as it is dedicated to God
– a perfect theology for terrorism based on religion. That
is exactly what the demoralized Brahminism wanted, to get back
into power in the 6th century and it goes on even
today.
Most Vaishnavites who entered the western
civilization of modern day taught exactly the same in direct
worlds.
The Vedic teaching, like that of other religious traditions,
is that God determines what’s right or wrong. His absolute
word sets the standards for morality. Without God in the
picture, invented morality has no ultimate value.
http://www.krishna.com/node/498

Rajaneesh – Osho
Rajaneesh - There is no absolute good or evil
http://www.ankerberg.com/Articles/new-age/NA0805W2.htm
Rajneesh teaches that "to emphasize morality is mean,
degrading; it is inhuman" and that literally "everything is
holy; nothing is unholy." Here we see that one of the purposes
of the Eastern monistic path is to get the disciple to
understand that, after "enlightenment" everything he
does is "holy," whether good or evil. Because nothing is truly
evil, Rajneesh even acknowledges murder as a
potentially meditative act (i.e., something "good" or
"holy")—assuming, of course, it is done in "higher"
consciousness.
In commenting upon the lesson of the Bhagavad Gita (a
Hindu scripture) he says: "Even if you kill someone
consciously, while fully conscious [i.e., "enlightened"], it
is meditative.... Kill, murder, fully conscious, knowing fully
that no one is murdered and no one killed.... Just become the
instrument of Divine hands and know well that no one is
killed, no one can be killed."
No one can be killed in this philosophy
because no one really exists to be killed. All duality (e.g.,
people) is illusion and only the impersonal, undifferentiated
God is real. In a letter to the editor, even Charles Manson once
said, "I’ve killed no one." Given the influence of monism upon
him, this attitude is not surprising

Srila Prabhupada
This also becomes evident from the contention of Prabhupada
that “In transcendence notoriousness has the same absolute
connotation as eminence”. It is not surprising therefore
to know tha ISKON holds that “The yogi should be able when the
occasion arises, to reject even moral behaviours and do what
is necessary to serve Krishna.” A devotee, in other
words, can commit any evil because no action done for Krishna
has any bad reaction. In ISKON’s version, Krishna
himself says, “Anyone whose full consciousness is always
absorbed in me, even in lust, is elevated.” This in turn
implies that not only is Krishna independent of the law of
Karma, but that anybody who is in Krishna Consciousless can
afford to be immoral.
As pointed out by Mangalwadi, “In theory this does not sound
alarming, but it does whenPrabhupada’s followers began to
practice these teachings. In December 1975, an Americal
devotee on a British passport was arrested for trying to
smuggle 17 watches, 82 calculators, two cassette players 803
pounds and $100 in a scarf trunk. Even after being
imprisoned for two months and disowned by the Hare Krishna
Movement in India, he believed he had not done anything wrong
because he wanted to smuggle this money to
buy cars and settle in Inda as a preacher of Krishna
Consciousness.”
http://www.gaudiyadiscussions.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1416.html


On a morning walk in Raman Reti one day with a group of
disciples, Bhaktivedanta said:
“Just like the Muslims converted people with a sword in one
hand and the Koran in the other, we can approach people with
the Bhagavad Gita in one hand and a gun in the other. ‘Do you
accept Krishna?’ ‘No.’ Pow!
Not now, but later when we are more powerful.”
Remember, the principle was that we could do anything for
Krishna. The end justified the means. This resulted in fraud
and con tactics, drug dealing, murder and prostitution being
used by some devotees. Now some argue whether Bhaktivedanta
was aware of these things going on or not. He certainly was
pleased with the devotees who brought money and wasn't
concerned with how they got it. The biggest wheeler dealers
became the biggest ISKCON leaders.
It is even sadder to hear people rationalize this incident
with the story of the four mystics who plunderred people in
South India to construct the Sri Ranganath Mandir in South
India.
I hear people say, "Prabhupada purified that money."
We have shown that the ethics of Vaishanav sect is essentially
swadharma and not dharma. It is based on what is
convenient and does not respect any eternal principles. We wont
be able to find a single situation when we are required to be
truthful and righteous as long as the situation demands
something personal. Such an ethics is pragmatic and is
used even today in war. But such a moral code in daily
living is self defeating and will eventually destroy the
society. This is exactly what was illustrated in the
remaining history of Krishna’s reign on earth.
Krishna and Dwaraka
CONSEQUENCES OF GITA PHILOSOPHY

Riddle In Hinduism
By Dr. Babasaheb B.R.Ambedkar
Krishna's youthful career was full or illicit intimacy with
the young women of Brindaben which is called his Rasalila.
Rasa is a sort of circular dance in which the hands of the
dancers, men and women, are joined together. It is said to be
still prevalent among some of the wild tribes of this country.
Krishna, it is stated, was in the habit of often enjoying this
dance with the young Gopis of Brindaben, who loved him
passionately. One of these dances is described in the Vishnu
Purana, the Harivamsa and the Bhagavata. All these authorities
interpret the Gopi's love for Krishna as piety—love to God,
and see nothing wrong in their amorous dealings with
him—dealings which, in the case of any other person, would be
highly reprehensible according to their own admission. All
agree as to the general character of the affair—the scene, the
time and season, the drawing of the women with sweet music,
the dance, the amorous feelings of the women for Krishna, and
their expression in various ways. But while the Vishnu Purana
tries— not always successfully—to keep within the limits of
decency, the Harivamsa begins to be plainly indecent, and the
Bhagavata throws away all reserve and revels in indecency.
Of all his indecencies the worst is his illicit life with one
Gopi by name Radha. Krishna's illicit relations with Radha are
portrayed in the Brahmavaivarta Purana. Krishna is married to
Rukmani the daughter of King Rukmangad. Radha was married
to..... Krishna who abandons his lawfully wedded wife Rukmini
and seduces Radha wife of another man and lives with her in
sin without remorse.
Having started with the rasleela with gopis of vrindavan, it was
taken up by the sex tantric cult which took Krishna cult to
another level. Radah probably was an interpolation of the
Tantric cult.

The Padma Purana describes 18,000 cowherd-girls (gopis) among
whom it says
108
are the most important. Among those 108, eight are considered
more important still, and among the eight, two have a special
position - Chandravali and Radharani. Of the two, Radha is
considered the foremost.

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Tantra is probably a Gnostic
introduction to India as a science even though it existed in all
societies. Gnostic Christianity talks about the
relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene as it became
popular these days through the Da Vinci Code.
The Mandaean texts speak of Manichean sexual mysteries: “Then I
explained to you, my disciples, that there is yet another
Gate (sect) that derives from Msiha (Messiah). They are called
“Zandiqi” (saints)and ‘Mar dMani” (of Lord Mani). They sow seeds
in concealment” –Ginza (right) 9:1 It is therefore quite
possible that Manichaen Gnostics introduced this art in India.
Since they influenced Buddhism we see this more among the
Buddhsit art. It was somewhere between the 1st and 6th centuries
that the Kama Sutra, originally known as Vatsyayana Kamasutram
('Vatsyayana's Aphorisms on Love'), was written. So it
fall within the developing period of Hinduism.
Even in the gnostic tradition there were two parallel
traditions; one ascetic and the other sensual. This is
surprisingly paralleled in Hinduism too.

Tantric sexual behavior among monastics is consistent with Bon
and Nyingma traditions from Tibet and is not out of harmony
with their strong spiritual focus and higher monastic morals.
Whether or not Manichaean monastics practiced some sort of
higher tantric sexuality cannot be absolutely proven from the
present historical record although circumstantial evidence
seems to imply they did. If they did practice some sort of
limited intimacy among themselves, such intimacies would have
been carried out for purely altruistic spiritual purposes and
not some sordid release of lower desire. The Manichaeans monks
were not hypocrites, nor were her nuns given over to
licentious abandonment. What ever the secret practices of this
ancient brother sisterhood, they were in full accord with the
advanced ethical teachings of their founder Mar Mani and in
full accord with the secret teachings and practices of Yeshu
(Jesus) and Miryai (Magdalene) and other great Nazorean
Apostles of that Good Realm.
Compiled by Abba Yesai Nasrai, O:N:E:
www.wikio.com/article=38504670

David
Gordon White, while cautioning against attempting a rigorous
definition of what is a protean
practice, offers the following working definition:
"Tantra is that Asian body of beliefs and practices which,
working from the principle that the universe we experience is
nothing other than the concrete manifestation of the divine
energy of the Godhead that creates and maintains that
universe, seeks to ritually appropriate and channel
that energy, within the human
microcosm, in creative and emancipatory ways"
When enacted as enjoined by the tantras the ritual sex
culminates in a sublime experience of infinite awareness, by
both participants. The Tantric texts specify that sex has
three distinct and separate purposes — procreation, pleasure
and liberation. Those seeking liberation eschew frictional
orgasm for a higher form of ecstasy, as the couple
participating in the ritual, lock in a static embrace. Several
sexual rituals are recommended and practised. This
eventually culminates in samadhi wherein the respective
individualities of each of the participants are completely
dissolved in the unity of cosmic consciousness.

Modern
Godmen in India: A Sociological Appraisal
By Uday Mehta,
Akshayakumar Ramanlal Desai
It is widely known among the scholars that
Radha does not figure in the Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagavat Gita,
Hari Vamsa, Vishnu Purana or even the Bhagavad Purana – the
movement’s main scripture; Radha, for whom Krishna is presumed
to have such intense love, does not figure in Hindu religious
literature till about the 10th century A.D.
Alternative Krishnas: Regional And Vernacular Variations On A Hindu
Deity
Guy L Beck
While there is a brief mention of Radha in the Padma Purana,
and even a long discussion of her in the Brahmnavaivarta
Purana, the antiquiry and authenticity of these texts is
highly contested. The Brahmavaivarta Purana, a “Tantric”
Purana probably dating from the fifteenth to the sixteenth
centuries CE, “attempted a thoroughgoing synthesis of
Krishaite and Sakta ideas, fitting Radha into the outlines of
Hindu feminine theology sa as to accommodate important
devotional-theological movements in North India during the
fifteenth and sixteenth centuries”.
On the other hand , “this same synthetic impetus led to an
emphasis on Radha’s maternal role that was largely peculiar to
the Brahmavaivarta and was not acknowledged for the most
part by the later Radha cults. To be sure, various notions of
Radha in the Brahmavaivrata came to be widely accepted. Such
as the identification of Radha and Krishna with prakriti and
purusa. And such sects as the Radhavallabhis, who
worship Radha above Krishna, may be especially indebted to the
Brahmavaivrata” However this text does not
really describe Radha as a soverign deity…….
.The religious writings of Bengali vaishnava were deeply
imbued in Tantric thought and practice, wherein Radha becomes
theologized Aadysakthi (hladini sakthi), the cosmic
energy, the primeval mother of the world, a metamorphoses of
the great goddess Durga, whom Krishna once known as his
sister, Subhadra, Yagamaya.
In the pious veneration of Radha …..these new groups
preferred to distance themselves from Sakta and Tantric
traditions that were receiving social disapproval for unsavory
and unorthodox practices……wake of twelfth century Sanskrit
text, Gitagovinda by Jayadeva in Bengal………Radha-Krishna became
popular …….

Radha as the Primary Sakthi of Universe
Radha
is the principal paramour of Krishna in the
Srimad Bhagavatam,
and the
Gita
Govinda
of the
Hindu
religion. In many
Vaishnava
traditions of Hinduism, Radha is regarded as a primary
deity,
often worshipped to as an incarnation of Goddess
Laxmi.
Radha is almost always depicted alongside Krishna and features
prominently within the theology of today's
Gaudiya Vaishnava
religion, which regards Radha as the original Goddess or
Shakti.
Radha's relationship with Krishna is given in further detail
within texts such as the
Brahma Vaivarta Purana,
Garga
Samhita
and
Brihad Gautamiya tantra.
Radha is also the principal object of worship in the
Nimbarka Sampradaya,
as
Nimbarka,
the founder of the tradition, declared that Radha and Krishna
together constitute the absolute truth.

For some of the adherents of these traditions, her importance
approaches or even exceeds that of Krishna. She is considered to
be his original
shakti,
the supreme goddess in both the Nimbarka Sampradaya and
following the advent of
Chaitanya
also within the
Gaudiya Vaishnava
tradition. In the Brihad-Gautamiya Tantra, Radharani is
described as follows: "The transcendental goddess Srimati
Radharani is the direct counterpart of Lord Sri Krishna. She is
the central figure for all the goddesses of fortune. She
possesses all the attractiveness to attract the all-attractive
Personality of Godhead. She is the primeval internal potency of
the Lord." Nimbarka (13th C) was the first
Vaishnava acharya to disseminate teachings about Radha
Within the Bhagavata Purana, Radha is not mentioned by name but
is alluded to within the tenth chapter of the text as one of the
gopis who Krishna plays with during his upbringing as a young
boy. It is in later texts such as the Gita Govinda where we find
the story of Radha given in more detail.
Vaishnava tradition states that Radha was born in either
Varshana, or Rawal, a village about 8 kilometers from Vrindavan,
near present day New Delhi in India. There are a number of
accounts of her parentage. According to one of the common ones,
her father is the leader (sometimes regarded as king) of
cowherds called Vrishabhanu, and her mother is called Kamalavati,
or Kirtida. Sri Sri Camatkara Candrika by Srila
Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura gives the name of Radha’s husband
as Abhimnyu the son of Jatila. Other traditions gives the names
as Chandrasena and Ayana. They may all be refering to the
same person. Harivamsa states that she was older than
Krishna by 19 years. They were together in Vrindavan when
Krishna was in his teens.

Sri Krishna killed his uncle Kamsa and crowned Ugrasena, his
grandfather as the king of Mathura. Kamsa's father-in law,
Jarasandha, the king of Magadh pestered Mathura with random
attackes that Krishna and the Yadavas were forced to move
out of Mathura. They moved to the Island of Dwaraka in
order to build their kingdom of Krishna.
When they arrived at the coast of Saurashtra they invoked
Visvakarma, to build them a city. Visvakarma is the
architect of gods. Visvakarma would take up the
assignment only if Samudradeva, the lord of the sea, provided
the land protected by him. So Krishna worshipped Samudradeva,
who granted him a land measuring 12 yojanas.
It is located in the Jamnagar District of Gujarat. It is on the
mouth of the Gomti River into Gulf of Kutch. The city lies in
the westernmost part of India.
On this island Visvakarma
built a the city of Krishna with gold and he called it Dwaraka
meaning Entrance into the Heaven.

Thus by all expectations this Kingdom is the ideal Vaishnava
Kingdom of God and its development and its final doom will give
us some insight into the Kingdom of God as envisaged by the
Vaishnavites.

Here is the summary as given by Dr. Ambedkar.
The Kingdom of Krishna
Krishna died as the Ruler of Dwaraka. What was this Dwaraka
like and what sort of death awaited him?
In founding his city of Dwaraka he had taken care to settle
thousands of ' unfortunates ' there. As the Harivamsa said: '
O, hero having conquered the abodes of the Daityas (giants)
with the help of brave Yadus, the Lord settled thousands of
public women in Dwaraka ". Dancing, singing and drinking by
men and women married and prostitutes filled the city of
Dwaraka. We get a description of a seatrip in which these
women formed a principal source of enjoyment.
Excited by their singing and dancing, the brothers Krishna and
Balarama joined in the dancing with their wives. They were
followed by the other Yadava chiefs and by Arjuna and Narada.
Then a fresh excitement was sought. Men and women all fell
into the sea and at Krishna's suggestion, the gentlemen began
a jalakrida (water sport), with the ladies, Krishna leading
one party, and Balarama another, while the courtesans added to
the amusement by their music. This was followed by eating and
drinking and this again by a special musical performance in
which the leaders themselves exhibited their respective skill
in handling various musical instruments.
It will thus be seen what a jolly people these Yadavas were,
and with what contempt they would have treated the objections
urged nowadays by the Brahmans and such other purists against
notch parties and the native theatres.
It was in one of these revels—a drunken revel—that the Yadavas
were destroyed.
They, it is said, had incurred the displeasure of a number of
sages by a childish trick played on the latter by some of
their boys. These boys disguised Samba, one of Krishna's sons,
as a woman with child, tying an iron pestle below his navel,
and asked the sages to say what child the 'woman' would give
birth to. The enraged sage said 'she' would produce an iron
pestle which would be the ruin of the Yadavas. Fearing the
worst consequences from this curse, the boys took the pestle
to the sea-side and rubbed it away. But its particles came out
in the form of erakas, a kind of reeds and its last
remaining bit, which had been thrown into the sea, was
afterwards recovered and used by a hunter as the point of an
arrow; Now it was with these erakas that the Yadavas killed
themselves.
Apparently this gives us another insight into the origins of the
Krishna cult probably from the Bacchus cult of the Greek.
The position of Dwaraka and the descriptions fit the Bacchus
orgies of the Greek and the Romans.
Megasthenes: Indika
I FRAGM. I.B.
Diod. III. 63.
Concerning Dionusos.
Now some, as I
have already said, supposing that there were three individuals
of this name, who lived in different ages, assign to each
appropriate achievements. They say, then, that the most
ancient of them was Indos, and that as the country, with its
genial temperature, produced spontaneously the vine-tree in
great abundance, he was the first who crushed grapes and
discovered the use of the properties of wine. In like manner
he ascertained what culture was requisite for figs and other
fruit trees, and transmitted this knowledge to after-times;
and, in a word, it was he who found out how these fruits
should be gathered in, whence also he was called Lenaios. This
same Dionusos, however, they call also Katapogon, since it is
a custom among the Indians to nourish their beards with great
care to the very end of their life. Dionusos then, at the head
of an army, marched to every part of the world, and taught
mankind the planting of the vine, and how to crush grapes in
the winepress, whence he was called Lenaios. Having in like
manner imparted to all a knowledge of his other inventions, he
obtained after his departure from among men immortal honour
from those who had benefited by his labours. It is further
said that the place is pointed out in India even to this day
where the god had been, and that cities are called by his name
in the vernacular dialects, and that many other important
evidences still exist of his having been born in India, about
which it would be tedious to write.

Omens appeared in Dwaraka, Day by day strong winds blew. Earthen
pots showed cracks or broke from no apparent cause. Society
became corrupt. The day of the new moon coincided with the
thirteenth and the fourteenth lunation. The fourteenth
lunation has been made the fifteenth by Rahu once more. Such a
day had happened at the time of the great battle of the
Kurukshetra War. It has once more appeared after 36 years. The
messengers proclaimed at the command of
Vasudeva Krishna
that the Vrishnis should make a journey to the seacoast for
bathing in the sacred waters of the ocean. (16,2)

La jeunesse de Bacchus (The Youth of Bacchus)
William Bouguereau 1884.
The Yadavas, then, with their wives, proceeded to Prabhasa and
took up their residence there, each in the (temporary)
habitation that was assigned to him, and all having an abundance
of provisions consisting of edibles and drink. The Vrishnis,
mixing with wine the food that had been cooked for high-souled
Brahmanas, gave it away unto monkeys and apes. Those heroes of
fierce energy then began their high revels, of which drinking
formed the chief feature, at Prabhasa. Then a dispute arose
between Satyaki and Kritavarman on the wrongs they did in the
Kurukshetra War. This dispute turned into a great massacre, in
which all the Yadava heroes were slain. (16,3)

Balarama sat down downhearted at the sad end of all the great
Yadavas. His spirit came out of his body in the form of a large
serpent i.e., Sesha Naga, the divine snake whose incarnation he
was supposed to be.
Krishna found himself isolated with the consequence of all his
immoral theology and isolated and dejected. He send for
his friend Arjuna to take charge of the land left behind by him,
who would take charge of them. As he was sitting
under a tree, hidden by its leafy and outstretching branches,
and composed his mind in meditation, a hunter named Jara mistook
him for a deer and hit him with an arrow, one pointed with the
last remaining bit of the fatal pestle. Krishna died there.
What is the end of Krsna? The death of a hero, brought down in
a duel of epic dimensions by an opponent of mighty prowess?
Hardly, Leaving a Dvaraka filled with wailing widows and
children, having seen his elder brother Balarama die, he lies
down under a tree and dies of the injury caused by an arrow
shot into his foot by a ere tribal hunter, a nisada, not even
a warrior out on a hunt.
http://www.boloji.com/hinduism/076c.htm
Arjuna arrived at Dwaraka and addressed the chief officers, to
prepare to leave Dwaraka within 7 days, as Dwaraka is going to
sink in the ocean. Krishna's grandson Vajra was chosen as their
king to be ruled at
Indraprastha.
Arjuna
then proceeded to the place where the Vrishnis were slaughtered.
Searching out the bodies then of
Bala
Rama
and
Vasudeva Krishna,
Arjuna caused them to be burnt by persons skilled in that act.
On the seventh day,
Arjuna
evacuated Dwaraka Island. After all the people had set out, the
ocean flooded Dvaraka, which still teemed with wealth of every
kind, with its waters. Whatever portion of the ground was passed
over, ocean immediately flooded over with his waters. Beholding
this wonderful sight, the inhabitants of Dvaraka walked faster
and faster. (16,7)
In Mahabharata, there is a specific account about the
submerging of Dwaraka by the sea, which reads thus:
“The sea, which had been beating against the shores, suddenly
broke the boundary that was imposed on it by nature. The sea
rushed into the city. It coursed through the streets of the
beautiful city. The sea covered up everything in the city. Even
as they were all looking, Arjuna saw the beautiful buildings
becoming submerged one by one. Arjuna took a last look at the
mansion of Krishna. It was soon covered by the sea. In a matter
of a few moments it was all over. The sea had now become as
placid as a lake. There was no trace of the beautiful city which
had been the favourite haunt of all the Pandavas. Dwaraka was
just a name; just a memory.”
Arjuna took the surviving Yadavas men and women to Hastinapur. A
number of Ahiras, armed only with lathis, attacked his party.
But Arjuna lost the power of his mighty arm and his unrivalled
skill as an archer which killed his teachers and brothers in
Kurushetra and could not defend Yadavas who were left in his
care by Krishna. Ahiras carried off many of the men,women,
and children as slaves. He reached Hastinapur only with a small
remnant.

Tsunami swallowing the island
Dwaraka
- A LOST CITY RECOVERED –
http://www.arianuova.org/arianuova.it/arianuova.it/Components/English/A12-Dwaraka.html
Dwaraka was a western Indian city submerged by the sea right
after the death of Sri Krishna. … But in the early
eighties an important archaeological site was found at the
site of the legendary city of Lord Krishna.
Dwaraka is mentioned as Golden City in Mahabharata,
Skanda Purana, Vishnu Purana and Harivamsha.

Dwaraka

That was the sad end of the Playboy town of Dwaraka which
Krishna conceived as the City of God with his theology of Gita.
If it gives any lesson we seem to have missed it and we are
still teaching the Gita as the greatest ideal of mankind.
Incidentaly according to the
Yuga theory, the death of Krishna inaugurated the Kali Yuga and
the dharma left for us in this Yuga is the Gita dharma. The
purpose of avatar according to Gita is to regain dharma where
dharma has declined. Now that Krishna came as an Avatar to
put it right, the dharma of the Yuga is Svadharma which is the
god given dharma of this Kali Yuga. It is probably meant
by the Supreme Personality to lead the present world to its end
and to its destruction. That is the leela of the th
Supreme Personality. He used the same technique in his Buddha
Avatar.
“Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga [he] will
become the Buddha by name, the son of Anjana, in Bihar, for the
purpose of confusing those who were enemies of the devas”
srimad-bhagavatam 1.3.24
As the purpose of Buddha Avatar was to
delude the masses into error, was the purpose of Krishna Avatar
also the same? After all in the Sri Dasavatara-stotra and
Upaaya from the Gita-govinda, Jayadeva Gosvami substitutes
Buddha in place of Krishna as the ninth avatar just before the
final Kalki avatar. Krishna’s death inaugurated the Kalki Yuga
for which Gita is the Dharma. Was Krishna cutting out the
one of the two legs of the Holy Cow of Dharma to make it stand
on one leg? Are we misled by Krishna?


